Stop Stealing Dreams

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What is school for?

The economy has changed, probably forever.

School hasn't.

School was invented to create a constant stream of compliant factory workers to the growing businesses of the 1900s. It continues to do an excellent job at achieving this goal, but it's not a goal we need to achieve any longer.

In this 30,000 word manifesto, I imagine a different set of goals and start (I hope) a discussion about how we can reach them. One thing is certain: if we keep doing what we've been doing, we're going to keep getting what we've been getting.

Our kids are too important to sacrifice to the status quo.

[We have a new cover! Thanks to http://www.asasku.blogspot.com/]

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Here are four versions of the manifesto. Pick the one that you need, and feel free to share. To download a file, you'll probably need the option key or the right click button on your mouse... ask a teenager if you get stuck. (Just added an audio reading by Dave Wakefield all the way at the bottom of this page).

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There are several versions of the manifesto.

One is a PDF designed to be read on your screen. Feel free to email this anyone you think might want to read it. You're also free to post it on a website, as long as you don't edit it or charge for it.

The other featured edition is a PDF formatted to be printed on any printer. Feel free to make as many copies of this as you like and hand them to people who might benefit from a discussion about what we're investing our time and our money and our future into.

If you have a Kindle or a Nook or any other device, see below for some links on how to import the PDF to your device. I also created special editions that are easy to transfer directly to the Kindle or Nook. And, as a bonus (once the guys in the Apple iTunes store approve it), an iBooks edition for the iPad.

For a list of other books by Seth Godin (that's me), scroll down to near the bottom of this page. And if you have comments about the book, feel free to post them here, or even better, on twitter #stopstealingdreams or on Facebook or your own blog!

Some of the books I reference in Stop Stealing Dreams

Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling, 10th Anniversary Edition
Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling, 10th Anniversary Edition

Gatto is the godfather of the history-of-school-as-factory mindset. I'm in his debt, and I wish every parent would read this book.

 

Ken Robinson on Creativity and Passion

The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything
The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything

Another classic. Be sure to see Sir Ken's video, just below.

 

Sir Ken on Creativity and schools

If I could have every administrator, teacher and parent read just one of my books...

Feel free to chime in with your comments 295 comments

robbielou 2 years ago

I look forward to reading and sharing the manifesto! It's an excellent conversation. Passion! Without it there is only mundane.

(Should ...sent of goals should be ..set of goals?)


halleyscomment 2 years ago

Stop doing whatever you're doing and start reading Stop Stealing Dreams! Thanks so much Seth for writing it.


OldSchoolTheNewSchoolforDesign 2 years ago

My tertiary design education focussed on grades rather than learning how to design, and ignored my key strengths.

I have taught design at Universities and Tafe, and was so disillusioned with the whole set up that ground teachers into the ground, killed students creativity by constricting what their experimentation and risk taking, and neglected their individuality by trying to squeeze them into a standard.

For this reason I have decided to set up my own design school which celebrates freeing your spirit and creating from the heart and learning who you are and where you fit. There is no assessment with a focus on encouraging students to be self driven individuals who share and help one another. More of a community of learners if you like. You can read about the school here,

newschoolfordesignandtypography.com/

it is a departure from mainstream education models, true to the same philosophy as Seth's manifesto with an emphasis on making. I am working alone, currently we have been open 8 weeks. Still a long way to go, but art and design education is like my religion. For me this is the only way design education can be, so instead of complaining about the system like my peers, I feel that I have to start this experiment.

i welcome all thoughts and ideas! and would love to hear from you:

info@newschoolfordesignandtypography.com


duediligencediva 2 years ago

Seth,

As always, your thoughts are a catalyst for serious life enthusiasts to take note and make things better. The power truly does lie with good people standing up and crafting elegant yet simple solutions that evolve with current needs.

I am a life-long learner, doctorate level, with a deep passion and gratitude for education, and the well-intentioned educators who are dedicated to their mission. Those true heroes have been sickened with the system for years, yet have felt powerless to slay the dragon of institutional complacency.

I will eagerly spread this "dream stealing" wake-up message, and then observe and participate with excited anticipation as we all develop the next, better alternative to an outdated education system. Our children deserve so much more; it's time to deliver our best.

Here's to dream revitalization...to the moon & stars & beyond!

Lory Moore


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rshadrin 2 years ago

Seth as always communicates his passion with clarity and can support his positions with appropriate experts and manifestos.

When I was a school teacher and administrator my mentor had me define the purpose of school in a haiku/zen like fashion or what we would now call a branding statement. After too many words and cryptic declarations of the nobility of education he rejected all of them and reminded me I had but a few seconds to declare what I stood for. Finally, after a long run and reflection I told him the 'purpose fo school is to provide success opportunities for kids." In that statement is enclosed all activities and attitudes plus technology and most importantly teacher excellence needed to set kids free to pursue with guidance and mentoring. And so I laud Seth but want to remind him to renovate schools will take a bottom up and not top down revolution. Let's be really radical and close schools for a year (after proposing a one year curriculum for all grades administered either at home or a combo of self study and mentoring and use the year to address not only an outdated curriculum and instructional methodologies, but buildings and schedules, transportation, football and the prom that make US schools uniquely suited for the bottom of the civilized world rather than the top. Make no mistake---it's not evolution that will make the US the world standard, it's revolution that will set our kids apart and ready for the top.


emilylowrey 2 years ago

Until my graduate education, I attended school in rural Alabama. Ms. Sanders, my kindergarten teacher, didn't make me join in the group to color and she didn't make me use templated coloring sheets. I concentrated so much so on creating these bright kaleidoscope free-form pieces of art that I didn't want the distraction of social hour when I could instead be expressing my creativity. She was the only teacher in my elementary education who left 'room' for me to dream. Mr. Raines was my high school history teacher, a subject that wasn't on my favorite list until he came along. He was the only teacher who treated me and other students like adults, and because of that I can recall lines and lines of world history to this day. By treating me as an equal, and not like a child, he taught me to take responsibility for my education and made me a life-long learner. Because of Ms. Sanders and Mr. Raines, I left corporate media (a hierarchical place) and now own my own business where the culture couldn't be more different. More importantly though, they planted enough of a seed that I was able to break out of a very religious upbringing which didn't encourage individual, creative thought. Gratitude to them both for giving me space to learn and be.


therealhutchie 2 years ago

I am excited to hear the stories of how people put flesh and blood to this manifesto! As a teacher in SD I am ready to inspire dreams instead of steal dreams.


emilylowrey 2 years ago

Until my graduate education, I attended school in rural Alabama. Ms. Sanders, my kindergarten teacher, didn't make me join in the group to color and she didn't make me use templated coloring sheets. I concentrated so much so on creating these bright kaleidoscope free-form pieces of art that I didn't want the distraction of social hour when I could instead be expressing my creativity. She was the only teacher in my elementary education who left 'room' for me to dream. Mr. Raines was my high school history teacher, a subject that wasn't on my favorite list until he came along. He was the only teacher who treated me and other students like adults, and because of that I can recall line and line of world history. By treating me as an equal, and not like a child, he taught me to take responsibility for my education. Because of Ms. Sanders and Mr. Raines, I now own my own business where my team has created a thriving, supportive culture. More importantly though, they planted enough of a seed that I was able to break out of a very religious mindset and think independently. Gratitude to them both.


njInternetProf 2 years ago

The map has been replaced by the compass by Seth Godin on February 21, 2012

http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2012/02/th...

as I red the full 190 pages, this seems to sum it up!

The map keeps getting redrawn, because it's cheaper than ever to go offroad, to develop and innovate and remake what we thought was going to be next. Technology keeps changing the routes we take to get our projects from here to there. It doesn't pay to memorize the route, because it's going to change soon.

The compass, on the other hand, is more important then ever. If you don't know which direction you're going, how will you know when you're off course?

And yet...

And yet we spend most of our time learning (or teaching) the map, yesterday's map, while we're anxious and afraid to spend any time at all calibrating our compass.


magmoment 2 years ago

Page 101 Read this book because I say so. Read this book because the author is coming to speak. Read this book because someone wrote it. Read this book because you are 13. Read this book because I like it. Read this book because you will learn about _________. I chose this book because ___________. He's in or not.


edit911 2 years ago

I'm loving Stop Stealing Dreams, Seth. I've been a teacher/professor since 76. My career's been pretty good in that I've taught and inspired tens of thousands of young people to write, write better, and enjoy writing.

And I HAVE written a manifesto: about writing great fiction. Please check it out, especially the chapter on Emerson. I'd love to hear from you! Thanks!

Marc D. Baldwin, PhD

http://edit911.com/resources/


vickicobb 2 years ago

My new start-up company, www.inkthinktank.com is pioneering a new way of motivating kids and teachers with a school-wide program of mentoring both teachers and students by award-winning children's nonfiction authors. It's affordable because we're doing it via interactive videoconferencing. AND IT'S WORKING!!! Check out the record of our pilot program on our wiki: http://bogert-authorsoncall.wikispaces.com/ The key to education is motivation and we've figured out how to do it. I, too, have been writing about this a lot on my blog http://educationupdate.com/vickicobb/. Love to enter this conversation.


anonymous 2 years ago

My daughter is a freshman at Truman State University, studying secondary math education. I'm going to forward this and encourage her to share with her faculty and fellow students. Thank you, Seth, for stirring the pot.


sbkris 2 years ago

Looking forward to reading this thanks! My son was having a difficult time in our local public school. He was so unhappy I attended 2 months of second grade! with him to see what the problem was. Pretty simple, incredible boring and no connection to any meaning. Great for future factory workers, bad for creative types. Luckily we have a hybrid charter here. 2 days home school, 2 days classroom, which my bright and creative boy fits into great. What my son has taught me about learning and education. (and parenting) As a parent the most important elements are, listening, having faith that your child (or student) will find there way, and making sure that the individual school fits the learning style and interests of the kids. (Of course, good teachers too) With a higher than 50% high school dropout rate in CA maybe our bureaucrats should get involved in this conversation! Thanks Seth!


wheretigerswill 2 years ago

My favorite teacher wasn't when I was in his class. His class was British Literature, but his value was much more. In that year under his tutelage, my writing went from barely bearable to just beyond, and his instruction started me on a journey to get better and better. I moved away from writing for a while and started embracing it again in the last year, but I can point to Mr. Kenny as the one who started it all.


upriser 2 years ago

GREAT Huffington Post article on the subject: Education's Epic FAIL: http://huff.to/y2i3lU

And here's an awesome video along the lines of what you're saying: http://bit.ly/wayseer


harshswami9290 2 years ago

Looking forward to read it asap and spread it all across.

Meanwhile, you can check out this group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheLearningRevolut...

we've been discussing and sharing stuff and ideas on similar lines.

Cheers! :-)


Hesadanza 2 years ago

Is there an audio book format available? I have an hour long commute wherein I can read nothing with my eyes, but my ears are open.


Groves 2 years ago

It's not even good at creating compliant factory workers anymore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-...


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@Hesadanza: Alas, I tried to record one, but it was too exhausting! Feel free to record one, though.


eatmydessertfirst 2 years ago

My boyfriend, who is an educator, and I (running for my state's legislature) often have this conversation about how to restructure the school system (our state of Nevada has the worst HS graduation rate in the country) and get more kids into college. He often points out to me that the school system in this country wasn't designed to get kids into college but to do what you have so eloquently stated in your manifesto: to produce workers. I initially had a hard time with this but after doing some research and reading a few books on the education system I have accepted this to be true.

Education is part of my platform and I have begun to spread this message to all that will listen. I can hardly wait to begin sharing your words of wisdom with those that are tasked with reforming our education system here in Nevada and the rest of the country. Hopefully your words (and mine) will not fall on deaf ears.


athinker 2 years ago

With respect to tradable jobs (p 11), you ask - "Is there any question that the first kind of job is worth keeping in our economy?" That's a fairly big assumption which I am not sure is right.... I don't disagree with the approach or conclusion - but this may produce a weaker foundation for change than desired.


ToledoHomesforSaleandRent 2 years ago

Seth - I am surprised you are not a homeschool advocate - many of the reasons you do not like "school" are the reasons we homeschool.


BonnieJeffers 2 years ago

Just scanning this briefly nearly brought me to tears. The very small community I live in is facing a serious issue with school funding (who isn't?) and parent's are finally gaining passion and motivation. The timing of your manifesto is perfect and I can't wait to share this across my networks!


Mariner8 2 years ago

@Hesadanza: As far as I know, both Mac OS and current versions of Windows contain text-to-speech utilities. And there are several free utilities that permit audio recording on the fly. If you can put up with a computerized voice for 30,000 words, a work-around is possible.


clayjars 2 years ago

Those further interested in educational transformation should really check out http://masscustomizedlearning.com/ (and their book) for a prescription for change.

Another good example can be found in this graphical novel: http://www.infinitecampus.com/pages/company_menu/t...


wesaidgotravel 2 years ago

Seth,

What a great gift on a Monday morning! Thank you! I cannot wait to read your book. I agree that schools need to stop stealing dreams. As a teacher, I could not agree more. I appreciate you being a thought leader and sharing your ideas. Thanks so much! Lisa


DavidQ 2 years ago

@Hesadanza: Searching for "text to speech recorder" I found this freeware (among others): Hanso Recorder 1.9 http://softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Ed...


badmsm 2 years ago

Thank you, Seth!


antjecobbett 2 years ago

Thank you, Seth, for this great manifesto, every word in it is correct and true.

I'm writing this now for everyone who thinks they need encouragement to break out of ignorance, fear and the unwillingness to take the opportunity to be a student for one's entire life.

My parents encouraged us to make our own decisions at an early age and we didn't get beaten up the minute we didn't conform. We were encouraged to study and read and enjoy life, fulfill the weirdest of our dreams, be creative and live a healthy lifestyle without debts.

How did it turn out for me? Well, I'm now a happy and healthy 57 year old now without debt and since I've never stopped studying, I acquired a bit of knowledge here and there which certainly made my life a lot easier. I don't take recreational drugs or take medication. I've learned to take care of all my needs without having to visit/pay a so-called professional.

They threw me out of the school system (higher education in Germany) when I was just 15 for not complying with their nonsense in my quiet way. I felt pretty bad back then, fearful, not much self-esteem, but hey, it was a good life to live as an "outsider" in this society.

What do I want to say with this? Nobody needs the school system as it is now, it's there and we are made to go to school, but by the time we are of age, we can choose. We can choose what to do and how to do it or we can succumb to the plans that the the big ones in this materialistic society have for us.

I chose to follow my own plan.

Thank you again, Seth, for this great manifesto, yes, I will put the links up on my own insignificant blog, sometimes I have people who drop in and it's for them I write.


sterry 2 years ago

Thank you Seth for creating this blog -- I am one who is dis-enchanted with education today and is making the change by designing the school of my dreams - the antithesis of what is present today -- PEACE School (peace-school.org). There are many who wish for this ideal education system, have the talent and skills to bring it about, but are afraid to step out of the mainstream and into the ocean of possibilities, for fear they will not succeed financially. There is a huge need for seed funding and a lot of administrative work to initiate this venture. The struggle I face is finding those in agreement with this vision, who have the funds, and are willing to invest in it. I feel everyone will jump on board once it is up and running - but without the trust and financial backing, how does one put gas in the engine to make it run? Although it's a good starting point, complaints and idle chatter won't make it manifest. Any suggestions on how to hurdle over this seeming obstacle?


athinker 2 years ago

I'm afraid that the real issue is a lack of societal responsibility - and MUCH broader than public schools, manifesting itself in myriad ways. Quotidian school practice is simply the easy 'non-bespoke' method for sating the masses and will rapidly (if not already) lead to 'short, brutish lives'.

If individuals sought out the long term and pursued it with purpose they would make quite different, and more meaningful, decisions than just the easy. Leaders aren't driving this behavior - or even encouraging it. Rather today's leaders are paving the way for complicit consumption of yesterday's medicre success.

Changing education (not just schools and teachers) is only one facet of the gem.

Let's see if anyone grabs the exposed wire that Seth has bared.


zcheney 2 years ago

This is a message the world needs to hear. Thank you for sharing!

Take a look at what FranklinCovey is doing with The Leader in Me. They are helping schools overcome many of these challenges with a new approach of developing leaders. http://www.theleaderinme.org/what-is-the-leader-in...

We need to stop placing children on a distribution curve and recognize that EVERY student has the potential within to be great. Our current education system is not designed to recognize and unleash that greatness.


Szofia 2 years ago

Last year I had the honour (crazy NZ English variant spelling!) of working with a visionary New Zealander - Macpac founder turned education evolutionary Bruce McIntyre. He's created a curriculum and model school in Christchurch, New Zealand (maybe it takes a city that has been crumbled to let a new idea emerge through the cracks?) that helps our children never lose their native brilliance. The story is universal - a dream of ourselves and our world that we lost or gave away at school - one that we are, just in time, waking up to again: www.journeytobrilliance.com/home/story/. So thank you, Seth (and Ken) for being evangelists. And thank you Seth for shipping this r-evolutionary idea for free.


Toronto-Cosmetic-Dentist 2 years ago

Riveting. As a parent of five, this cuts to the core of one of the biggest issues our family faces.


yeager16 2 years ago

Anyone who resonates with Seth's rants on education should check out Montessori education by visiting an AMS or AMI accredited Montessori school, visiting www.mariamontessori.com and reading The Science Behind the Genius by Lillard.


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BFunivcom 2 years ago from Wherever Human Rights Reign

Seth, I read your book The Idea Virus free online many times, and then I went out and bought a print copy -- along with your other books.

Schooling is an important topic that you have been addressing for a long time, I'm looking forward to finding your new insights (and possible improvements for my Educational Importance lens).


ajackline 2 years ago

Excellent and so glad that you, Seth, are bringing your (well respected) voice to this conversation. Consider it spread....


traciec8 2 years ago

My kids are lucky enough to go to a school where the teachers are there because they love kids! It's a private school, and they make less than teachers in the public schools, but they have a lot of heart. When you walk into their classrooms on any given day, you see the teachers with the young kids, sitting on the floor, reading books, playing and learning together. The older kids are encouraged to work in teams, and to think for themselves. We love our school! St Matthews in Bellevue, NE

Very well written...and LLLONG...manifesto. I agree, agree, agree!!!!!!


mwbusa 2 years ago

Seth, et al - this is perfect. For some ideas about what needs to be considered when recreating "school" please see: www.ultimateprep.wordpress.com

This is not about education REFORM, it's about a needed REvolution in education: what is it for and how to go about it.

Mark


IvanFrank 2 years ago

Thank you Seth Godin for enticing me to get in the canoe on most days (when most of Arowhon boys were happily doing something else when they could). I learned the fulfillment and peace that comes through mastery. Thank you for inspiring me and countless others in our daily lives and careers!


athinker 2 years ago

@zcheney: The very thought of statistics against a child's potential is insulting (not that zcheney meant it that way). Instead of trying to displace anyone (or everyone) from the distribution - let's raise the target!


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Heather426 2 years ago from Amarillo, Texas

Fantastic! Stop Stealing Dreams is the perfect title too!


LocalTownAmerica 2 years ago

I wrote about Stop Stealing Dreams on my blog with a link to this page. I agree that the life has changed in America and we need to change first on the local level. One of the best places to begin the discussion is about our children's futures. Let's let them dream big dreams as individuals and redirect the education process.


ramileo 2 years ago

My dad was destined to teach since his 1st grade teacher asked him to help fellow students. Nothing deterred him from his goal. Not his family's yearly migrations for farm labor. Not encephalitis, which doctors feared caused permanent brain damage, when he was a child. He fought for his dream and delivered in ways non one could have imagined.

He taught at a predominantly Hispanic high school in McAllen (deep South Texas) for 32 years.

He coached our Math Wizards team and took these kids, who were often from hardscrabble backgrounds, and turned them into state champions year after year.

He created an ran a Middle School State Championship from our house.

He was Texas Teacher of the Year in 1993, a Readers Digest Hero In Education, a Tandy Scholar, a Director on the Board of Professional Teaching Standards, and a Disney Teacher of the Year Nominee.

Between 1983 and 1992, over 20 members of his math team - including me - were accepted to Stanford and numerous other prestigious institutions.

His "retirement" has expanded his impact. He tutors children of all ages and remains the most prolific writer of elementary, middle school, and high school practice and tournament tests, workbooks, and DVDs Texas has ever known. He consistently earns perfect marks in his in services and leaves rooms in awe with his ability to teach the "unteachable."

He can engage a high school senior in advanced calculus and linear algebra just as easily as he can a 1st grader learning to love mathematics for the first time.

I've never met or heard of a person more perfectly suited for changing the world through teaching than my dad, Mr. Ram.

Despite his accolades, our family always suffered financially. He earned a few thousand a year when he started working in 1973. He pawned his high school and college rings to buy us Christmas gifts. We lived in a mobile home growing up: my parents couldn't afford a home until I was a Senior in college. Looking back, though: we had it all.

A loving family. A passionate father, driven by the success of his students. Our life was and still is priceless and we would never trade our experiences and our parents' sacrifices for the immense impact my dad has made in society.

My closing letter to his book, "The Wizard Maker," (http://thewizardmaker.com, https://www.facebook.com/thewizardmaker) tells the world how profoundly he touched my life, and countless others, throughout Texas and beyond.


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Ann Hinds 2 years ago from So Cal Level 3 Commenter

I was about halfway through the manifesto when I read that very few children could find Greece on the map. I asked my kid if he could find it and he instantly got the globe to show me. Then he asked for other places to look for. This has effectively stopped our math lesson but that's OK because the interest in finding countries on the map is something I will encourage. We started homeschooling this year because I no longer believe that he will survive as an adult with conventional education. Although we follow the curriculum because I refuse to go to jail, we do more unschooling than actual schooling. I am a product of the 1950's school system and did fill a place in corporate America for twenty years but never stopped learning. I have a different viewpoint and have never quite fit the mold. Your manifesto is not new to me, I have heard this viewpoint before which is one of the reasons we decided to pull the grandson we are raising from public school. This is important information that I found on Pinterest posted by Heather426 and I will repin it too. I will also forward this on to the parents who are bright enough to understand. They need to see past the fear that they were taught as part of their school experience before they can begin to make changes that will matter.


ajsummey 2 years ago

This is fantastic. I keep sharing and sharing after every section. We have 5 children and school at home. We seek to take full responsibility for their education. We follow their interests. It is hard, but it gives passion. But, what it also does is create deeper and developed relationships.

I was homeschooled by a mom who I remember railing on and on about multiple-choice tests. That was the 80s. As a result, I'm not afraid to try and learn anything.

I realized about 6 months ago that I do not know how to make good videos to communicate my ideas. So, 6 months later, I'm doing much better with over 13,000 views. I still think what where I am at is crap, but they are getting better.

And, I've surrounded myself with those ahead of me in this area. They are helping and I'm shooting now with a guy who's got a film set for national release. He's my teacher for now. And one of my best friends I have going forward with or without his continued teaching.

Deep relationships is also a great byproduct (of course, this may have been covered. I'm not done reading it yet. I got excited and had to share). Isn't that something else that has been missing with the onset of the Industrial Revolution?


NanetteSaylor 2 years ago

Once again, Seth, you've led us down a path that few are willing to go -- BRAVO! In my mind, there is nothing more valuable than active systemic engagement in this dialogue and in taking the actions required to make change. In the meantime, as you so aptly state, we can all do our part, nurturing the creative, inquisitive spirits of everyone we come in contact with- young and old alike!


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BenJacklin LM 2 years ago

Brilliant Seth, thanks for the constant inspiration.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

Thank you for doing this. I am proud to be the co-founder of a private independent study school that customizes for each child's learning style needs including talents, interests, best environment, and career ideas. The most important thing we can do is show students how to discover what they love and be confident to go for it, so they will become adults who are eager learners and contributors to their world. One of our books is Midlife Crisis Begins in Kindergarten!


antjecobbett 2 years ago

@athinker: Yes, this education system, the neglect of kids by working parents, the over use of recreational and prescription drugs has already lead to "short, brutish lives" as you so very well observe and write. We will see more of that in a very short time. How can people overcome the fear of trying a lifestyle outside this system? It is a happy life as I have stated!


antjecobbett 2 years ago

@IvanFrank: I second that!!!


antjecobbett 2 years ago

@Ann Hinds: Your grandson is very, very lucky! I do so hope you can instill in him the love for studying, this love is destroyed by schools. You never stopped learning and neither did I. It makes for a good life. Yes, people need to get past this fear!


antjecobbett 2 years ago

@NanetteSaylor: So true! I'm with you on that!


DroidRules 2 years ago

Just found an easy way to get the mobi file on to your Kindle App on IOS. Each kindle device now has an special email address. If you send the mobi file as an attachement to that email address (you need to be an approved email account - you will receive an email about how to do this) the mobi file will be downloaded on to your device.

Saves using USB's and understanding where to put the file

Regards

David Thomas


lynnelizabethharris 2 years ago

Would love to buy Ken Robinson's The Element but why is it $16.20 for the kindle edition?


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markcollard 2 years ago

Hey Seth, I'm adding your manifesto to my play and adventure-based learning blog http://inspireyourgroup.com/blog which currently traffics about 20K / month. I got an enormous reponse when I posted Sir Ken's video 'Do School's Kill Creativity?' on the blog late last year, so I expect your words will strike a chord too. You rule!


Bevenden 2 years ago

Thank you for sharing this book Seth, as a fan of linchpin I wanted to hear more of your ideas on the state of education and now I have it. As an educator with an interest in changing the status quo, your words are inspirational and I have shared them with all the teachers I know. Like most forward leaning teachers I am stuck in the system and trying to change it little by little, beginning in my classroom. I would love to have written this manifesto as you have concretised my thoughts and amplified them. Unfortunately. Most teachers are kept too busy by the failing system to get the time to write something like this, so I thank you on behalf of them too.


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agoofyidea 2 years ago

I will be reading this as I read all your books - eagerly.


Annalea 2 years ago

Yes yes yes yes yes! I'll be posting this to our Folk School site: http://www.SandpointFolkSchool.com It's not your grandpa's school. ;o) Thank you!!!


EdwinJansen 2 years ago

Hey Seth - I was in the Medicine Ball sessions and remember your reasons for turning off your blog comments. I'm glad that you enabled them for this Manifesto - because this is definitely different. We need dialogue, engagement, and radical new ideas. In this case your tribe just might be (nearly, or eventually) everyone, so it's valuable to get all the ideas on the table (if for nothing else than to know what we're really dealing with). Thanks for writing this - it literally read as if many of the ideas were already in my mind. I will definitely be spreading (or forcing) it on people.


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strategylab 2 years ago from Regina, SK

Everyone's looking for a solution to the education problem, I think what we need is a leader. Who would be better than Mr. Godin himself. I think this is the first step in the education revolution headed up by Seth. I don't know about you but there are only a handful of people in the world that may be smarter but I don't think anyone cares more than Seth. Inspiring really.


jamesrcole 2 years ago

FYI, in the HTML version http://sethgodin.typepad.com/stop_stealing_dreams/...

there's a typo in section 13:

"Jobs were invented before workers were invented.p>"


aarongmyers 2 years ago

As always, great thinking! Thanks for this gift to our future and to our kids. May we have the courage to act.


rigormortis 2 years ago

thanks, seth. expect me to spread this like a virus: hi ho!


GrahamBrownMartin 2 years ago

Great to see that you're entering the great education debate Seth.

You may be interested to hear what Noam Chomsky had to say about the purpose of education at the recent Learning Without Frontiers Conference in London

http://www.youtube.com/lwf#p/u/28/DdNAUJWJN08


optimizer2 2 years ago

WOW. I read all 30k words - and am looking forward to finding time to read it again. In the meantime, I sent it to the principal at my son's ES, the PTA at his school, my school board member and my Board of Supervisors. Thank you Seth. Here's to building a generation of creative and motivated leaders. I hope it happens in time for my son.


spinner75 2 years ago

Thank you to Paul Peterson who taught me and anyone else in class who was listening, the "the world was knowable" if we were willing to put in the effort to learn. That gave me great confidence that I could learn and it also infused me with a sense of responsibility that it was truly up to me to listen, read, study.


sivuh5 2 years ago

Please, everyone who is truly interested in an alternative to traditional education - check out Sudbury schools, via www.sudval.org. The philosophy is 100% self-directed learning in a fully democratic environment. The most unique model you will ever encounter, AND IT ALREADY EXISTS TODAY!! Enrollment is available at anytime during the school year - YOUR KIDS ARE WORTH IT!!! Thank you Seth!!!


eSCKWID 2 years ago

Just bought Lynchpin on Audible.com. I love listening to books when riding my mountain bike (NOT in traffic, just on trails, I'm not crazy!)


Tryndyl 2 years ago

@sivuh5: It sounds like you have a similar learning model to CMA School of Arts & Sciences, only that CMASAS is distance based (online and blended learning). You might want to check it out to see if you would be interested in any partnership opportunities that might benefit Sudbury: http://www.personalizededucation.org/schools/sas/ It is self-paced, student-centered, mastery-based, and trans-regionally and Internationally accredited, so it could potentially mesh well with what you are already doing.


cgoldie 2 years ago

Thank you, Seth, for beginning this crucial discussion. I agree about reading Linchpin. It is among my favorite titles of yours and one I recommend consistently.


RoninSC 2 years ago

Mr. Godin,

Enjoyed your manifesto very much. Wish you would consider the work of Dr. Phil Schlechty who has been advancing this cause for many years. The Schlechty Center is available to help any school system interested in breaking the current mold. www.schlechtycenter.org


holly26 2 years ago

Thought provoking! Thank you for writing. I agree with almost all of it!

I beg to differ on two points:

1. That parents might turn education into a home-based project - Yes, they should. I believe part of the trouble in education is parents are kept out of the picture by teachers and administrators who claim to be the experts and who claim they don't need any help from amateurs, thank you! Parents need to elbow their way to the front line offensive and be the primary person in charge of their child's education, and anyway, many of the key 21st century skills you mention are best learned at home. Most parents are capable of taking ownership for this important job.

2. I'd like to think you can work with public schools to revolutionalize them, but I propose the more effective path is an end-run around them. Facilitate school choice so parents and their students can pick the best school whether it be private, charter or a public magnet. It's funny how public schools start noticing a need for change when all their students flee to charter schools.

As the parent of three children (college, H.S. & middle school) I've written 88,000 words on this topic and there are excerpts from my "manifesto" on the No Perfect School blog

http://noperfectschool.wordpress.com/


jamesrcole 2 years ago

FYI, typo in section 25:

" At some point, teenagers realize that most of school is a game, but the system neer acknowledges it."

'neer' -> 'never' (or "ne'er" ?)


Gydle 2 years ago

It's like Seth took everything I was thinking about education and wrote it out, and then added a whole bunch of other stuff that I had never even dreamed of. I've spent a LOT of time thinking about how our educational system fails our kids and doesn't prepare them for the exciting opportunities that are coming up - and how it erodes their creativity and confidence. We're in Switzerland and I tried mightily to keep our two boys in the local public system but had to bail with son #2 because it was killing his spirit. I will be sending this to everyone I know and to the principal of the International School of Geneva. Thanks.


vphelps 2 years ago

Seth,

I stopped everything yesterday to read your Manifesto. Your ideas are powerful and made me stop to think.

I noticed that another person who responded to your Manifesto mentioned Phil Schlechtys work in school transformation. It just so happens that I work with Phil at the Schlechty Center (www.schlechtycenter.org)

Your ideas are absolutely compatible with the kinds of transformation that the Center advocates. We work with a group of school districts across the country to make student engagement in quality work the centerpiece of school. We would love to have conversation with others who believe that we can change what happens for our children in schoolsand do it today.


sharongillesp 2 years ago

I hang-out a lot at Starbucks, and I got to thinking: Why couldn't school be like a coffee shop? There are people working independently, peer groups, still others meet-up with an instructor of sorts. I created a "dormant" site: Starbucks Middle School because I had an idea and just needed to post it. I shared it with TED Conversations awhile back: http://starbucksmiddleschool.blogspot.com/

It's just a thought. I taught for 15 years and that was enough. Now I'm working on a project with middle-school girls who have "issues" while learning to bead, it's called "One Bead At A Time-One Girl At A Time" : http://belikethehummingbird.com/my-hummingbird-pro...

I will ravish your manifesto over a Green-Tea Latte. Thanks


internetmarketingreality 2 years ago

I'm glad to see this Seth. There has been a huge need in this area for a long time as you know. I'm glad you are starting the conversations. I've passed it to friends who are passing it to friends. Awesome! Thank you.


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jacinto888 2 years ago

Very interesting concept, I will have to read more of your materials, I agree with your assessment of the success of the education system in this country. Thanks !


JulieJoy1 2 years ago

Right, Seth Godin, that's it - I have to take action! I have been following you and your work for some two years with utter delight and as yet have not made contact. But yesterday, I too stopped everything to read this amazing piece. I was awake at 4 am with such a lot whirring in my head which I have to blame you for - but in such a great way. I just need to say thank you - for your brilliance and for your infinite ability to keep on giving, sharing, motivating. I'm starting my part of the sharing as a parent of teenagers, then with my husband a teaching assistant, then with my children's teachers....Count me in and continue. And a warm thank you again across the ether!


fabiopasiani 2 years ago

Seth, thank you so much, this is super! I'm going to translate it into italian to spread the word in my crazy country. If any other Italian linchpin is willing to partecipate my mail is fabiopasiani@gmail.com


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bofirebear 2 years ago

So very true what you said. Not only stealing of dreams but teaching people not to dream.


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bofirebear 2 years ago

So very true what you said. Not only stealing of dreams but teaching people not to dream.


CoachCallender 2 years ago

Really appreciate the article. The time for change in the educational system is far overdue. Sorry for tweaking an overused analogy but changing the education system will be like re-floating the Titanic, patching it up, and then trying to turn it around amid a field of large icebergs. All of this when it seems what we really need is a new ship. That's going to be expensive!

To effect this monumental change will take some time to re-float and turn around the ship, or find the money to buy a new one. Parents don't have the luxury of waiting this out. As Seth pointed out, the rest of the world systems are moving on without the education system and the parents that are afraid to face this reality. Fortunately for the parents who decide to take action, there is already an organization deploying much of what the manifesto says to do. Academic Life Coaching is underway with a contingent of coaches across the U.S. with the aim of restoring students' individuality and dreams. It's going to take the multi-pronged approach of influential thought leaders, receptive school administrations, willing parents and students, and boots on the ground to turn this around.


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greenmind 2 years ago

Interesting lens -- I'm a teacher, and this gives me something to think about!


Mariaemma 2 years ago

While we are waiting for the schools to change you can choose to do something different for your children now. Some kids truly suffer in school. There are many independent study programs available. To see one that customizes for each individual child's learning needs (including talents, interests, passions), check out solimaracademy.com


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@sharongillesp: Yes! Love your idea and your project!


mashmac2 2 years ago

I loved Seth's suggestion for 'Make School Different' bumper stickers, so I made them!

Interested? You can buy them here: http://www.cafepress.com/oddsandends4you.624376047

They're also available as car magnets or in a 10 pack here: http://www.cafepress.com/oddsandends4you

Enjoy!


thisisjosephratliff 2 years ago

By all means, this manifesto speaks a truth that long needed to be told.

This is a call for a Tribe leader who has the resources and experience to initiate the changes outlined in Seth's essay.


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LauriFinn 2 years ago

If you want to see an education system that works take a look at Finland. Where education, including University level, is free to all. It's also a country where education is seen as an investment rather than a cost.

Here's a link to a book review that may interest fellow squids: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/mar/...


2bempowered 2 years ago

I am so excited to read this. I am a big fan of your work and I am well aware of Sir Ken Robinson's work. I am writing a guide/handbook for the youth around empowerment, life skills, speaking your truth, walking your talk, mentoring/coaching, and challenging the systems in order to create systems/guidelines that are more in alignment with the desires of the millennial youth today. In the last section of my book I will focus on how to make better choices for our world. One area I will focus on is our education system (I am in Canada). I hope I have permission to make reference to your work.

Sandra Finkelstein

www.2bempowered.com


Diateino 2 years ago

We translated the 4 first sections in French. French readers of Seth Godin, we invite you to translate with us the following sections here : http://www.diateino.com/blog/2012/02/29/prets-a-tr...


CoachCallender 2 years ago

@thisisjosephratliff: Existing potential solutions need to be communicated and investigated. Check out http://academiclifecoaching.com. There is a tribe leader truly building a tribe to approach much of what the manifesto outlines from the student perspective. I am a member of that tribe blogging at lifeskillhacker.com.


CampbellDuke 2 years ago

Sing it, brothers and sisters! Change will come from the ground up and we have a great opportunity to be part of that change.

I'd also refer you to the Jean Anyon work, 'Social Class & The Hidden Curriculum of Work'. This required reading for my B.Ed. kept me awake for days after I realized that I'D been screwed - not just the 'poor people' I was in school to learn how to help. (http://cuip.uchicago.edu/~cac/nlu/fnd504/anyon.htm...


froebelusa 2 years ago

Seth: I appreciate the passion and effort you put into this. However, you started the story 100 years too late. The future education is actually in the past ... before those "terrible Prussians" that Gatto likes to rail against. I was introduced to this history by Leta Stathacos and Lenore Godin (so I know where your passion comes from). Bill & Lenore also introduced me to sushi, but that's another story. You should look into the Froebel Kindergarten, it's role in bringing attention to education and how it was co-opted and scuttled (which is where your story starts). The authentic Kindergarten (once a proprietary brand) shaped the visions of Frank Lloyd Wright, Buckminster Fuller, several influential Bauhaus artists, Einstein, and several generations of others before the factory-ization was implemented. I urge everyone to understand what we once had (and will again someday) as a full understanding of the past is essential for this discussion.


MazarineT 2 years ago

Dear Seth,

The 6 basic lessons we teach in school by John Taylor Gatto are outlined in this article.

http://www.wildwomanfundraising.com/feeling-stuck-...

I focused on how hard it is for us to break out of the system that school has trained us into.

Have you heard of "The Spirit Level"? Kim Klein blogged about it, so I read it, and it's a fascinating book about how when the poor of a society get lifted up, EVERYONE gets healthier, happier, richer. Like in Finland, for example, where they have outlawed private schools. Everyone goes to public school, and everyone gets their education paid for through the PhD level.

I wrote a blog post about The Spirit Level which you might like to peruse, for some "hard numbers" about why education equality is so important for us all.

http://www.wildwomanfundraising.com/nonprofit-work...

Thank you for drawing attention the way school is failing us.

Sincerely,

Mazarine Treyz

Peace,

Mazarine


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ErnestBoehm 2 years ago

Just started reading it but it is very much on my mind with a child entering preschool and one in kindergarten.

Education has been a big changer in my life and I have had countless choices in my life because of it. I learned to doubt and to think critically from a handful of extraordinary teachers.

Thanks for starting the discussion once again.


SkipM 2 years ago

Having read the document and fully agree beginning to end I can't help but give a link that shows the lunacy continues: http://www.forbes.com/sites/garyshapiro/2012/02/29...

This from the head of a tech association, albeit a poptech one.


esmithhouser 2 years ago

I love it. I homeschooled my own children until high school. I have contended for decades that all real schooling is homeschooling (or self schooling) anyway. What's happening now is that there is a whole strata of society with strong unions that have no interest in true education but in securing employment for themselves. True education is giving a person the skills to acquire information and the knowledge of how to apply what they learn themselves. The rote machinations and the indoctrination that are the dominating forces in academia currently as you so properly observe, are for churning out people who know only how to take in predigested pablum hold on to it long enough (maybe) to regurgitate it onto a test but have no real understanding of how to develop hooks on which to hang real knowledge and then to apply it universally to all the information they can acquire. There is no teaching without learning-one can throw balls or tomatoes at someone til the cows come home but if no one reaches up a hand to grab it there's really no point. There is, however, learning without formal teaching. Anyway I love it-you're preaching to the choir here! Unfortunately I don't think it would do any good for administrators to read these books, I'm convinced they aren't in it for the sake of education. I'd love to be wrong, I'd love to see academics pick up the baton and really put creativity and resources into developing minds but I don't see it happening.


antjecobbett 2 years ago

@esmithhouser: Hi, esmithhouser! I totally agree with your comment! It would be nice if there was a positive change on the education system, but homeschooling and self-schooling is the only option at the moment and it's certainly more useful and more fun! Have a great day!


cogginsweb 2 years ago

Resonating with every word...ready to read it again. Constructively disruptive is how I would describe it. Scoured the comments for a contrarian opinion...anything out there?


LianeBenedict 2 years ago

I am 2/3 of the way through the manifesto and nodding my head and saying "yes" out loud throughout. You see, I work with 9 public schools in NY state as a staff development coordinator. I have been frustrated by what I observe though my role as well as a parent of two children in one of the school systems I support. I left the classroom to find a way to facilitate change in the system. It is a system deeply tied to old ways of doing things. I have remained in education despite my frustration because I am passionate about helping people learn and grow - adults and kids and I feel a moral imperative to support the change we need in education. I have shared this manifesto and will continue to spread the word.

And just today I read about the students at Northwestern High School in Maryland who are fighting for change and we were shut down and punished for speaking out...

http://www.facebook.com/studentsforjustice1


philrosenberg 2 years ago

Just finished "Stop Stealing Dreams" - Seth, you're dead-on. And I think you're right, that it will take a generation of angry parents to change the K-12 educational system ... but the collegiate educational system is ripe for change.

The universities themselves won't change on their own - they have too much invested in the status quo. It will take a generation for parents and students to influence the higher-ed machine.

The fastest way to change the higher educational status-quo is to change it ourselves. Because we care about our future and for our childrens' future - but also because we can do well by doing good.

Seth - and your readers - please contact me at phil.reCareered@gmail.com ... and let's put our heads together to create the Harvard of the 21st century.

- Let's create a platform for students who want to learn, led by subject matter experts who want to help students get past roadblocks.

- Let's create a university that doesn't saddle it's students with ridiculous levels of debt.

- Let's lead students to create, to be self sufficient, to find success on their own ... or as a highly differentiated Linchpin in the corporate world.

- Let's offer an alternative to the industrialized education machine; One that works in the connection age.

- Let's offer experiential learning, to give students the chance to learn by failing, to not fear failure, and to view risk as opportunity.

Who's with me?

Phil Rosenberg

President, reCareered.com


WorkingParent 2 years ago

@MazarineT: Good recommendation on "The Spirit Level", Mazarine. Also, find the time to read anything by Diane Ravitch, arguably the most important educational writer today. She's actually been a teacher, and she also is an educational historian. She's compelling and should be read by every parent and citizen in America: http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780465014910

http://www.dianeravitch.com/


WorkingParent 2 years ago

Seth, I've read your manifesto once and there's so much I like about it. Kudos!

I want to read it again, even more carefully, and get back to you with what I hope will be a good contribution to this important public dialogue.

In the interim, I think you would benefit greatly by reading and promoting the key ideas in these three outstanding books I've listed below. Diane Ravitch leads this list as she is truly the most brilliant and compelling voice I've heard on the state of education in today's world. Your mission would benefit greatly by interviewing her directly, visiting her website and inviting her to be a part of your future work in this area.

http://www.dianeravitch.com/

http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780465014910

http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780807749623-0

http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780807752579-1

http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780807001400-1

Again, thanks so much for writing and promoting your excellent e-book. I encourage you to make the above books part of the conversation and to become familiar with each of the authors and their 21st century ideas about American education.


WorkingParent 2 years ago

@esmithhouser: Hi. I must tell you that my experience is completely different. My son is in the second grade. We're at a public school in a big city and we could not be happier. The teachers work very hard and they are exceedingly competent. We feel a connection to all the other families in our school and care about all of the kids in our school---not just our own progeny.

There's a reason that in virtually every survey taken since the mid-80's, parents approve of their own child's school overwhelmingly. (Usually around 85% approval for their own child's school, year after year, all over our country.)

However, when you ask those same people what they think of American education "in general" it is exactly the opposite: about 85% negative.

So, where does the disconnect come from? How can people approve strongly of the school they are most familiar with, and condemn the nation's schools as a whole? Could it be due to the well-organized, well-funded and intentional campaign to lower support for public education?

It's true that since NCLB, a number of "educational testing companies" have thrived. And many of the "Charter Schools" are run by private, for-profit businesses, all of whom want to grow and expand.

Some want to do to our public education system what they did to Wall Street and the economy as a whole in 2008. We parents and citizens need to understand this and be realistic about their real motivations.


thebulfrog 2 years ago

At parts this cuts off just as some of the ideas are getting good. Id love if someone could expand on or link to answers to a couple of ideas that weren't fully answered:

1. What are the actionable steps to get rid of standardized testing / what are the alternatives?

2. It's impossible to teach good curriculums without quality teachers so how do we improve the quality of teachers without increasing school budgets?

Am I wrong, or without solid answers to both of those questions, this ends up boiling down to another piece speculating on how to improve the focus of curriculums without providing a clear solution.

(And yes, I'm well aware it's much easier to state these problems than it is to figure out the solutions)

http://jeremyshuback.com/category/speaking/


WorkingParent 2 years ago

@philrosenberg: Phil, are you involved with a genuine educational effort or a private, for-profit business? I just wanted to know before I invest the time going your website. Thanks!


aceborodriguez 2 years ago

@esmithhouser: I felt sad when I read your response to the article. I have been a teacher and part-time administrator for 24 years. My sisters are both life-long educators, making their way up the administrative ladders in their respective districts for the last 20 years, as well. We all passionately agree with educational reform. We work within systems, however, that strive to maintain the status quo. Your assertion that teachers unions and administrators are not in education to benefit students is unfounded, in my experience. There are a myriad of factors at play that keep us from reforming education, many of which are caused by politicians and business leaders who make educational decisions without satisfactory experience or knowledge. Likewise, when teachers are asked to change, they often are wiling but struggle with knowing how to change effectively. When hitting the middle of a change process, things get uncomfortable and sometimes messy. Very often internal and external pressures push us back to our comfort zones. Those who have the drive and the passion are often living the lives of salmon, pushing as hard as they can upstream to lay some eggs only to die with a hope that those eggs will hatch into something more profound. The change process is messy for any individual, but to change a system is an enormous undertaking. For any systemic change to occur, either a majority of individuals must go through their own transformation and then through the learning curve to implement that change or they must leave and be replaced by people who already have a vision and experience of how to achieve it. In a bureaucracy as weighed down as educational systems which have mandates from local school administrators, local school boards, state educational boards, and federal agents, a change process will likely be cumbersome. Add to that shareholders such as parents, students, and community members, all of whom know how best to create educational reform because they once were students, and it is a big process. Our entire country has a stake in quality education, so we must have a national dialog that assumes that people, especially those that are in the schools working with our students, have the best interest of students in mind as they make decisions. I am thrilled that there is more conversation about what we as a country would like from an educational system. I pray that the dialog may continue, and that we can confront, meaning "sitting WITH one another in front of the system, looking at it together with our own perspectives in order to craft, as a community, something more effective", the educational system. This manifesto is another brilliant place from which to dialog.


vickicobb 2 years ago

@LianeBenedict: Hi Liane:

Here are the questions my start-up company www.inkthinktank.com is currently addressing in our pilot project with an elementary school:

What happens to the learning environment of our school when our teachers and a team of award- winning childrens nonfiction authors collaborate in a large-scale, school-wide project where everyone is involved in sharing knowledge and skills?

Is the love of learningthe passion that drives childrens nonfiction authors--contagious? Can we, teachers, authors, and students catch it from each other? Can authors, who are lifelong learners, infect everyone?

What happens to student literacy when the core reading material is childrens nonfiction literature? Our books are normally considered enrichment and relegated to a secondary role in student learning, if not completely ignored in most classrooms, although they more than meet national educational standards. This year they become the intellectual meal rather than a sometime dessert. What will that do to test scores? Do you know that the assessment tests include excerpts from many of the Authors on Call books ?

How can personal contact with the award-winning authors of the books enhance the professional development of teachers in both literacy skills (writing) and knowledge of content and motivate and challenge students?

The results are starting to come in and they are phenomenal. If you're interested in knowing more, let's talk.

Vicki Cobb

vicki@inkthinktank.com


yogaseva 2 years ago

Thank you, Seth.

Could someone please tell me how I could find out the copyright status of the seagull image? I'd like to use it if it's available under creative commons. I'd appreciate if someone would tell me, thanks.


SalientRhetoric 2 years ago

Extremely accurate and priceless deductions.


DavidCrumm 2 years ago

As a long-time journalist and editor of an online magazine covering cross-cultural issues in media, I've read this entire book and we're recommending it to our readers. As a Baby Boomer, I'm intrigued by the LEGO example. In our coverage today, we're also reporting on Mei-Ling Hopgood's new book by Algonquin about global parenting. I think there are clear parallels between Mei-Ling's advice to parents and Seth's advice. So, we're encouraging readers to get Seth's book, read it and discuss it.

http://www.readthespirit.com/explore/2012/3/5/down...


philrosenberg 2 years ago

@WorkingParent: WorkingParent - What's wrong with both? My business models are for profit, yet give much away for free. Realistically, there are few people that will take on an effort of this magnitude without compensation ... a profit motive keeps people interested.

The website listed is my career website.


kiwi-maximus 2 years ago

Many good suggestions but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. You're thinking "How can we improve schools" instead of "What is the best way to learn".

The ideal, 'perfect' teacher would have these qualities: be an expert in all academic fields, an expert in all methods of teaching and motivation, and have maximum empathy with the student at all times - understanding when and how to cheer, to sympathise, to encourage, to calm, to distract. And that ideal teacher should be someone the child admires and respects - a grandmother when he's 5, Buzz Lightyear when he's 8, a sports star when he's 13, Albert Einstein when he's 18.

Obviously no human being comes close to this ideal. But in the near future avatars will. (Robert Heinlein suggested something like this in his Heechee series with Robinette Broadhead's individual advisors). They provide an individual, BESPOKE education.

The infrastructure behind this is obvious. I envisage something like an educational Wikipedia. Someone (anyone) can suggest a draft syllabus for any subject. This will be simply (a) What you need to know/be able to do, to be considered an expert in this subject

(b) The stages towards that knowledge (c) these are the levels of expertise.

Basically a big spreadsheet. Lesson 1 has content defined in column A. Col B is a link(s) to text file for those who want a written explanation. Col C links to the video lectures teaching by TELLING) Col D links to visual demonstrations (teaching by SHOWING) Col D links to simulation games (teaching by DOING)

Finally, I don't think we need a political revolution to move to this model. The Industrial Revolution was never legislated - the factories just happened to be a far more efficient way to deliver the product, and the old ways simply withered.


Co-Creator11 2 years ago

I was reading through the comments before I responded...Sudbury Valley School model ringing in my mind...hooray, SVS has already been added it to the discussion!

SVS is like collective home...or rather "un"schooling, collective life learning with the added bonus of community structures to address conflict and provide processes for kids to explore their dreams, then make them come true.

I am calling together such a collective near Calgary AB, Canada, if anyone is interested in being a part of this, please get in touch: nicolebradford110@gmail.com

I have 4 children aged 4 to 20, and my eldest 3 have been in the system. I will not put my youngest in, and am working to free my older kids from the "box-ness" of the system which they have soaked up (not much, but at 6 hours a day, 7 days a week...), because I see the effects it has on their energy, attitudes, time, self-concept and creativity.

My kids are in their formative years now, I cannot wait for the system to change.

Thanks to the SVS model, and all it inspires, along with the philosophies of unschooling, life learning, (all which are googleable); TED talks, homeschoolers all over...there is a force growing and I am so excited to see what comes.

The people who are/have been in this environment during their childhood years, into teenagehood and even adulthood, free to follow their own interests, be curious and run with it, they get lots of exercise, lots of life experience, relationship experience that isn't dampened down by adults in charge deciding what is to be done generally and especially when there is conflict...

...these kids will grow up to be problem solvers, thinking outside the box and knowing they can do whatever they set their minds on, and, having been respected and given responsibility from the start, they are compassionate and empathetic.

From where I stand, I think this is what the world needs. I think this is the recipe for the human beings of a thriving shining future.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@kiwi-maximus: kiwi-maximus, I agree with your approach - what is the best way to learn?

However, I believe the perfect teacher does not have to be an expert in all academic fields - the perfect teacher needs to be a person who coaches students in discovering their own information and expertise. The perfect teacher knows how to facilitate self-knowledge and self-discovery that empowers the student to learn what he wants to learn and go for what he loves to do and problem solve along the way.


CoachCallender 2 years ago

@WorkingParent: A private, for -profit business can be involved in a very genuine educational effort. Perhaps more so than someone in the system. Ever notice how decision makers on the inside can become narrow-visioned with short-term, band-aid fixes? And I would argue that this kind of change is going to take private influence. There is something about large systems that prevents them from changing themselves. Corporations ignore their innovative thinkers and then hire an external consultancy to come and implement what the innovative employee was saying all along.

And why would you immediately close your mind to someone who is advocating change? So what if he or she is private. We need to seek out, investigate, and involve anyone who advocates change.


CoachCallender 2 years ago

@Mariaemma: Kudos Mariaemma! As an academic life coach I am not an expert on everything a student brings to me to potentially work on. In fact, even if I do know something about it I withhold judgment and advice. I have a post-it right below the screen that says, "Pretend I know nothing about it." It is up to the student to explore potential answers (that they create) and then decide what action he or she will take. Not my decision.

It would be great for teachers to be able to take this approach but they are under incredible constraints. Schools should take the time to discover the interests of every child and then build a curriculum around those interests. As Seth points out, so much of the rote information we force-feed the kids can be looked up on a moment's notice so why not spend more time developing students along individual interests? I love the flipped classroom idea. How great as a parent would it be to do homework, researching and discovering as opposed to regurgitating today's math lesson on a worksheet? Do the homework in class.


vickicobb 2 years ago

@CoachCallender: Thank you for that comment. We're a for-profit startup of top children's nonfiction authors who are searching for a way to get paid now that publishing is collapsing along with the well-paid author visits. We don't have day jobs and yet what we have to contribute to education is extremely valuable. Our business model is affordable because it is so innovative.


powermom 2 years ago

I never taught my own kid much. took her to the library, read to her. she asked for piano and I told her she had to practice. she did. she asked to meet blacksmiths, so I took her. she read a lot. she started college at 15, no SAT score needed. Got A's in her first ever classes.

did the same with my son. he is 13 and starts college next year.

no need for school.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@CoachCallender: Yes, yes, yes, precisely - agree with everything you said! The thing is, teachers CAN take this approach and we have trained a handful to do so. In our own private independent study program we customize every kid's program to meet interests, talents, and learning styles. Everything revolves around that.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@CoachCallender: Ditto, CoachCallender!


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jhgordon 2 years ago

Re: changes in university education: I don't think they have a choice any more. The greedy way UK universities have behaved is pushing potential students not only toward studying abroad, but also to taking control of their own education in a personal pick 'n' mix way. The model of high school then university then work then retire worked in the 20th century: now such a strict structure seems defunct.

And that also leaves room for more creative learning - if there's less structure people may find themselves making it up ...


CoachCallender 2 years ago

@vickicobb: We have to stop pretending that people who expect to get paid for a private service they offer, and are so bold as to advertise it online, are some kind of pariah. I mean do we all really enjoy the dance around what do I get for my money and what will it cost?

Back to the education issue- I'm afraid this is a case of all hands on deck so every potential avenue must be explored.


anonymous 2 years ago

I love Sir Ken Robinson. He talks about interesting things and he's funny at the same time.


boswellsam 2 years ago

Great writing on a topic close to my teacher-heart and I love your blog, Seth. Editing habits are strong, though - who did your proof reading? Page 14 is minuscule.

Forward a teacher the draft next time!


inet 2 years ago

Please Seth Call upon John Taylor Gatto. Not sure if he ever made that movie the 'Fourth Purpose' , I think not. He is not a marketeer just a brilliant teacher who advocates home schooling and wrote the book 'dumbing us down'.

The guy is brilliant and could do with early adopters and marketeers to make it happen


jacquemlane 2 years ago

@CoachCallender: Maybe for-profit is a worry becasue there will always be those who cannot afford it who will be excluded. Even if there are means of getting scholarships or grants, there will be kids who are unable to navigate those systems and thereby excluded from this valuable education.

On the other hand, that is only looking at profit one way. Maybe there are profit streams that could be tapped which do not come from the students themselves. I am sure there are many ways of looking at this if we break is open and look deeper.

I am looking to create something that would be very hands on though. I don't want an all online system. If you are too, count me in Phil!


jackieburt 2 years ago

We have a school that fixes ALL of this :) Please check us out a www.orsch.net

It's year 3 - we are breaking the mold...can't wait to spread it to the world!


aaron-lightstone 2 years ago

It is a lot of work and a wonderful challenge to implement ideas such as these into the creation of our new High School, Academy C-60.

http://www.academyc60.com/index.html

http://www.facebook.com/pages/C-60-Academy/2754823...


katya-lamb 2 years ago

I Home Educate in the UK and have read your paper with much interest. I agree with everything you say - even to the point of agreeing that Home Education isn't for all kids but for some it is the only answer.

What you think schools are doing wrong is exactly why I took my kids out!

All the things you say we should be doing to educate our kids properly for our new world is all the things I get to do only by Home Edding. I couldn't take the risk to wait a generation for schools to get it right and I am very vocal about what should be changing to anyone who will listen. My oldest. now 10 but at just 7, was reacting to the fact that schools were not preparing him for the world he could tell he was in.

When resisting learning rote times tables (his right brain just found the repetition mind numbing, since found visual exciting ways to help him to have fun with them) he explained that he didn't see the point of learning them off by heart as he would rather use a calculator and know that the answer was definitely true. I explained that he might not have a calculator on him and his answer "There's one on your iPhone [I didn't know that at the time] and you never go anywhere without it so I'll just use that until you get me my own." The more potential obstacles I tried to put in his real way (e.g. what if you've gone shopping without me and don't have access to my iPhone), the more real answers he came up with "I'm only 8 and you would get arrested for letting me go out shopping at the Retail Park on my own". He's fascinating and all the brilliant teachers - and I have met at least 4 who are of that brilliant ilk you refer to - all found him pleasantly challenging!

We're the best teachers our kids have ever had - fact! My two oldest - only 7 and 4 at the time we took them out of the system - had both had shut down at school for different reasons. I realised I could do nothing with them and still it would be better than going to school. We went on holiday for 3 weeks as we were trying to make the decision and I figured out very quickly that everything they knew we had taught them - indirectly, having fun, listening to their through provoking questions (and taking the time to either answer them or work together to help them find the answer), just paying attention to them and making sure they were happy!

You are right as to how important access to information over the internet is concerned. It has changed the face of Home Education.

I see the salary sacrifice as not only worth while but totally necessary and I am a lawyer so the salary we have sacrificed as a family was not insignificant. Three years on and I know it's still worth every penny.

I found I had no patience at all with bad behaviours by schools and teachers : but have (nearly :-) all the patience in the world with my kids and they are challenging!

I am living disproof of your concerns.

An amazing read, full of fabulous sound bites. Made me think about things I never have which is the point of the paper I guess - but if you knew me you'd know that's not actually easy as I normally over think every thing.

I love John Taylor Gatto's Dumbing Us Down and think Sir Ken is a breath of fresh air.

Have already shared it wantonly :-)


aaron-lightstone 2 years ago

@jackieburt: Very Nice website, and inspiring to see that you have been working at this for a while. We are just getting off the ground, and I would love to know how you have used twitter and facebook (in marketing the school) and if that has been useful.


BethDu 2 years ago

I read your blog consistently, read "Linchpin" and just finished "Stop Killing Dreams." Learned about you when you were on Dr. Mehmet Oz's show and often post your blog on my facebook. Thank you for all the "food for thought". I've seen project based learning catch the imagination and fire of my 14 year old, so I can testify of effectiveness of that style of learning for her. I've had to bear down on her during our one year of home-schooling (7th grade) to firmly establish academics of math and English that were lacking in our public schools. As boring as math can be, as an engineer, I see the wisdom in knowing basic math facts and skills to navigate our world. Parents interested in project based learning should enroll their kids in 4-H. We've been involved in 4-H for the last 7 years as parents and leaders. Every child has to enter a project into the local county fair, do a demonstration, and participate in a community service project. My members get excited about learning to sew because they see the end from the beginning. They most definitely concentrate on learning sewing skills because they are producing a product to show off. And by giving demonstrations/presentations from the age of 8, it becomes a natural way of life to market ideas and skills. And from early exposure to the community at large, they see themselves as participators and contributors. 4-H is a great educating experience and a wise use of scarce after school time and you don't have to wait for the education system to reform itself, you can take advantage of project-based learning right now. Thank you again, Seth for the difference you are making in this world right now.


CarolynatEIE 2 years ago

Terrific manefesto! You're right on in most areas, but you come apart at the seems when it comes to home education. I can't quite understand why people who can so clearly see the flaws in factory model schooling can't see that the system cannot be reformed. As John Gatto so carefully explains, it is already performing as it was designed to perform.

I understand that you think that some new form of school might be invented to enable students to reach their dreams. Perhaps so, but not on a mass scale. Nothing that is mandated on a mass scale will ever nurture whole human beings. Nothing short of wholesale repeal of compulsory school laws and some child labor laws will free children to explore, develop and achieve their dreams. This is highly unlikely in our increasingly regimented society.

Like it or not, home education is our only hope of keeping a significant remnant of the population in "dream and develop" mode. Only a few parents will be willing to make the commitment, but that is fine. You seriously underestimate the ability and determination of committed parents. Since you are so passionate about changing the direction of education, I strongly suggest that you get acquainted with the homeschool community. For starters, you might add "The Successful Homeschool Family Handbook" by Raymond and Dorothy Moore and "Hard Times in Paradise" by David and Mickey Colfax to your reading list.

In more than 30 years of knowing and working with homeschool families I have seen amazing things and watched hundreds of home schooled kids grow up free. Don't ever confuse people who take a boxed curriculum off a shelf or watch videos of some distant teacher (as a steady diet), with real home educators. I've learned that the 3R's really are the only academic things a parent needs to "teach." Once a child has those tools, there is nothing he cannot learn, either on his own or with a mentor. Parents need to be a coach and encourager, they don't need any "teaching" skills. Parents need to model learning, to learn alongside their children, to show the children how to find things out. I had to unlearn all the "teacher" stuff when I worked with my children. Think about it: all parents "teach" their children to speak their language, no matter how complex without any "teacher" knowledge at all.

Carry on. I will pass this manifesto on to everyone I can reach because it really is (mostly) right on!


boyd-bairn 2 years ago

A good test of any teachers work is to be found right here: How many questions do the learners ask about the lesion? Do they show an eagerness for more, or are they glad when the lesson is over? Do they study by themselves? After all, it is not the facts we teach, but the interest and study we stimulate that makes the lesson a success or a failure. The Masters Art by Howard R. Driggs Copyright 1946


KimGould 2 years ago

@katya-lamb: sharing wantonly .. a good response :) made my day katya!


arif-laili 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing this valuable ebook for free, it's superb as always :)


kdiemert 2 years ago

@boyd-bairn: Today's students can't be bothered by their interests. Typically, after the best of classes and lectures, is "Will that be on the test?" We've taught them that this is all that matters. And they have learned their lesson well.


kdiemert 2 years ago

@Mariaemma: Mariemma -- what school are you associated with. I love the focus on meeting interests, talents and learning styles.


davefinnigan 2 years ago

Seth - By pure dumb luck I have created two programs that I have delivered in schools for 30 years with the following unintended consequences:

1. To create a society thats culturally coordinated.

2. To further science and knowledge and pursue information for its own sake.

3. To enhance civilization while giving people the tools to make informed decisions.

The programs are http://www.jugglingforsuccess.org, which I've presented in over 2,000 schools in 41 states and 12 countries, and my newest program http://www.climatechangeiselementary.org, which I've now presented in 17 schools in 5 states.

What I discovered is that new ideas can come into schools, but they have to come from the outside, not through curriculum or through text books. So I show up, spend a day, and transform the school. It is hard to go back to the old ways once I've visited the school.

We start with a teachers meeting in the early morning before school and the teachers get ahead of the kids, which is very important. Then I take each grade level for one school hour in the gym or cafetorium. Each grade gets age appropriate instruction. With the Climate Change program we use music, movement, interaction, skits and slides to get the information across. Kids become polar bears, or penguins, trees in the rain forest, or hurricanes whirling across the Atlantic. I teach the way kids learn. Each grade gets a separate piece of the climate change puzzle.

Then we hold an all-school assembly at the end of the day and the kids get to learn about the carbon cycle and the Clean/Green future that is inevitable either soon, or after we burn all the carbon fuel.

That night about half the parents show up for Family Night and they sit with their kids on the floor of the gym to make a Family Sustainability Checklist of all the things they promise to do to reduce their carbon and water footprints. Everyone promises to do what is on the list and they take their list home with them, with the kids in charge. That same night we impanel a "Green Team" for the school.

This radical program is available for schools everywhere in the US and Canada and I'm going to be on tour training others to present it during the 2012-2013 school year. It is entirely supported by PTAs which are on the lookout for excellent assembly programs, and this is one of the best.

I would be pleased to work with anyone who would be interested in bringing this radical method of teaching to their school or district or who would like to undergo training and get certified to deliver the program in their area.

Dave Finnigan, Celebration, Florida


davefinnigan 2 years ago

@CarolynatEIE: I agree. We "World-schooled" our two children from K-10th grade, traveling around the US in a 40 foot motor home, dragging a stretch van and visiting schools where we taught the kids to juggle. My daughter ended up at Yale. My son went to China and studied Kung Fu at the Shao Lin Monastery and then studied Jiu Jitsu for 3 years in Santa Cruz and is now in Thailand studying Kick boxing. The gist of this post is that if you learn to learn the sky is the limit. Through "World schooling" we inspired our kids to be life-long learners.


advocating_creativity_in_ed 2 years ago

I retired from teaching because you can not change it from the inside. After three years I am beginning to think you can not change it from the outside either. So established a Coaching Centre, hey presto no more administrative hoops to jump through, restrictions, negative words or talk or flawed assessment systems and many of the other aspects which are causing the education systems of so many "developed" countries to fail our young. What annoys me most is the vast number of insightful, creative, eye opening texts that have been written over the last 30 years, if not longer, detailing the very same problems with our education system over and over again. If we can not go through then we must go around. If we seek creativity lets be creative in dealing with the problem, the system. If it won't change then let it become extinct.


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goo2eyes lm 2 years ago

i will send this to my brother who teaches in a canadian elem. school in alberta. the school system in the u.s. is kilometers away from canadian school system. canada has somehow adapted some ways from its european brothers. all immigrants are strictly screened before they could get a visa, no mercy. u.s. teachers should have a trip up north to observe how school life is. the worm in the apple is the bad upbringing of a child. a child is happy when there is peace in the family and when there is close family ties. compare a child from a broken family with one whose family is intact. do we think that the reps will change the economic situation in the u.s.? i doubt it but if he does, chapeau! the u.s. schools should start an apprenticeship program for handworkers like they do in europe. mechanics, carpenters, masons, electricians but the apprentice students should be very good in math and for some u.s. americans, math is a problem.


athinker 2 years ago

If you measure any person's success heavily on education you are bound to fail. This is, on it's own, one of the critical reasons that public education is failing so many children (not all...).

Consider branching out. There is more than education, there is more than learning. There is being and becoming. Pick a greater purpose and have education be a leg of that stool.

Too many comments here focus on the 'leg'. Seth is using schools as a way to get people to think DIFFERENTLY. Open your mind.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@kdiemert: Thanks, kdiemert! It's Solimar Academy - it's a part of our LearningSuccess Institute. You can go directly to solimaracademy.com or our main page learningsuccesscoach.com


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@davefinnigan: Love this! It's precisely the kind of thing we facilitate in our independent study program - when people are too scared to do it by themselsves they can hook up with us -SolimarAcademy.com


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@CarolynatEIE: Perfectly said, Carolyn - thanks for explaining it so well! Mariaemma at LearningSuccess


mskarenjmiller 2 years ago

Excellent!

I have a 20 yr old son and an 18 yr old daughter and I have seen the proof that our current school system is NOT set up to meet the needs of our students...who, by the way are our future voters, community builders and tax payers.

You gave me a good idea to blog a response!

You are always shaking up our thinking Seth!

Karen


OKLance 2 years ago

Great read!

I thought of it again last night, as I attended middle school open house for my 6th and 8th grader. I was delighted to hear that both kids are a joy for their teachers, but as the teachers paid them compliments, I began to ponder how the "system" rewards compliance.

It's funny that, without me saying hardly a word, many of the teachers went on to say that my kids were in the well-behaved group, while so many others in their classes were not so good. I was grateful to know this on the character-end of things--it's always a pleasure to hear that my kids aren't making trouble.

But I also wondered how this might teach them that compliance is the highest value--even above creativity.

There's a subtle difference, it seems, between being a person people enjoy and a person people don't have to control.


bimalshah 2 years ago

Hi Seth. Many thanks for your rant. I read bits to my kids (aged 9 and 11) and they are eager to hear more. One of them suggested a version with simpler words but the same essential message i.e. a version of your rant aimed at a younger audience. What do you say?

My own thoughts:

It seems to me we have to both continuously learn (and unlearn) despite having only been schooled ourselves as well as help our children be truly educated. I think the work of the Krishnamurti foundations in the field of education is worth looking into e.g. http://www.oakgroveschool.com/


StevenTylock 2 years ago

I love the conversation - even if I don't agree on all the details;-)

My full review is here:

http://www.timelyinsights.net/archives/godin-dream...

The gist - our local school system has most of the things you're asking for, and yes, we pay for it. Others may not understand the issue or how to get a good solution. Talking about it is the place to start.

steve


larryfromohio 2 years ago

Seth -

I'm sure you must have seen George Carlin's take on US education and why the people in power want to keep it this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

If not, here's the link. Loved the book - I'll having my college age daughter read it aloud to me during Spring Break.

Larry B


grahamtruax 2 years ago

Seth, et al

I am enjoying Stop Stealing Dreams immensely as my first Kindle/Android experience! Not sure if I will ever buy paper again. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion on the International Baccalaureate program/approach (IB www.ibo.org). My Son is in grade 10 with a common public school who has recently been accredited to offer the IB diploma program for Gr. 11 & 12. He has been accepted into the program but numerous points in your book raise questions WRT where thing should really be going

Thanks,


rickardoberg75 2 years ago

Thanks for writing this! It is a much needed summary of what many of us have concluded individually. Here is my take on it, from a Malaysian perspective: http://rickardoberg.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/why-t...


mvrainer 2 years ago

Education is a critical topic. Thanks for raising it. Here is my response, as a parent and an educator.

http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=3056550936.../target=post;postID=8954362283418209244


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mel-kav 2 years ago

A comment regarding special education. Why do the school systems expect children with learning and psychiatric disorders to follow such tedious curriculums? Some of these kids just cannot comprehend the material, and may never do so. And as far as state standardized testing - why make a 12 year old child with a 2nd grade mentality test on a 6th grade level. This only makes these kids feel incompetent, stupid, and hopeless. This only makes these kids act out and misbehave. Most of these kids are really good at art, music, sports, theater, etc. Why not focus on their strengths and help them develop their talents. Then, maybe they may actually feel good about themselves and give forth more effort in the subjects that they have difficulty with. I am currently working on a lens regarding this issue. I have lots of questions regarding many aspects involving special education.


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Countryluthier 2 years ago

@CarolynatEIE: Wow, Wow, Wow, now ya got me interested. I started this lens because of my business partner mentioning school as a provider of constant labor, throw in a little Robert Kiyosaki and his upbringing and now I arrive on the shores of your comment on Seth's epic work. I must read on. Your comments have gotten my attention along with Seth's of course. THanks for the grownup discussion here.


Mariaemma 2 years ago

@mel-kav: YES, to everything you are saying, mel-kav - and taking it further...many children who are labeled learning disordered simply are NOT. And, yes, they are the kids who are good at art, music, sports, etc...they are the Thinking/Creating and Inventing Dispositions - like Einstein and all of our famous geniuses (most of them did not do well at school, either). They are brilliant but don't do school the way the system wants them to. What we know of as "special ed" would just about disappear if we simply would acknowledge that everyone learns differently. The kids who get all the A's (like me) aren't getting a terrific education, either, by the way - it just mans they learned to play the game and they have the learning style combination that fits the traditional classroom - it's only about 3 to 5 in any class.


leanne-mcivor 2 years ago

I am so happy to find this site - I am a parent advocating for the voucher system - I would like to see equal funding for all schools - eliminate the middle layers that is wasting all the money when it should be in the classroom! Indepenant schools should be the future - see how New Zealand has had self ruling schools School Choice, Kiwi-Style: FCPP - Frontier Centre for Public Policy

www.fcpp.org

As in most jurisdictions in North America, including Manitoba, New Zealand was grappling with major policy questions about education, from improving student performance to funding formulas, from charter schools to classroom size.


leanne-mcivor 2 years ago

@OKLance: I think it is mean to have two distinct groups the well behaved and not so well behaved - what about the little kids in the other group where they are looked down upon!


jamesrcole 2 years ago

FYI, minor error in sect 69

"...the home page that shows up in Microsoft Explorer, the Web browser built into Windows.."

That should be "Internet Explorer" not "Microsoft Explorer".


jamesrcole 2 years ago

FYI, typo in section 70

"What matters is that motivation is the only way to generate real learning, actual creativity, and the bias for action that Open book, open note"

missing full-stop at end.


iamphilsharp 2 years ago

Like many people here, I found Seth's book to be super inspirational. As a former 5th grade teacher I felt myself agreeing with him more and more as I got through the book.

I found one particular part in the book particularly inspiring, and it was when Seth talked about the two bumper stickers. I wrote up a quick story about how I was inspired and posted it here on Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114861037179007370436/...

If you have a few minutes then check it out. It might make you laugh, and it will definitely help charity :).


clara-moura 2 years ago

Thank you for yet another inspirational lecture. I'm 25 years old and I'm from Lisbon, Portugal.

Though I think I've been lucky enough to have parents who dare me to take risks, and have had a few inspirational teachers, I feel somewhat betrayed by most of my teachers and friends, who dont challenge me to dream big, but instead tell me to play safe.

More than ever I feel the need to take action.

I will be sharing this manifesto to everyone who is willing to listen.


samfish3r 2 years ago

More from Sir Robinson, an RSA Animate of a talk of his. On changing education paradigms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U


rickardoberg75 2 years ago

@rickardoberg75: Here's the next part in the series, which discusses systemic evil in school:

http://rickardoberg.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/why-t...


rickardoberg75 2 years ago

@rickardoberg75: And the final part in the series, which discusses knowledge and understanding, and what is valuable to learn in school, and how:

http://rickardoberg.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/why-t...


stevenlevymath 2 years ago

Comments on "Stop Stealing Dreams". It would be nice to have a table of contents and an index. What is the hypothesis? Seems like a collection of interesting thoughts.

Now what? Here's what could happen. People stop going to school to learn. Learners will use online services instead. At times they will meet in groups. The idea, that you will learn so much when you are 5 to 22 is silly. Ever talk with a teen? There are somethings they are too young to understand. We need life long learning.

Online learning is great because the cost can be easily shared. For example, one video lecture might cost $10,000 to produce, but it can be shared with the entire world. The cost per student becomes almost free. Imagine, free education for anyone.


larryfromohio 2 years ago

I am reminded of a line from Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan (nee Zimmerman):

"Twenty years of schoolin' and they put you on the day shift."


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@stevenlevymath: Great idea! You should create one. Pick yourself and make something...

As for the hypothesis, it's repeated again and again. I hope it'll pop out if you spend another three minutes on it.


patchaure 2 years ago

Hi Seth!

I am very fortunate to have stumbled upon your manifesto. I find the "blogging collection" style good for me because it makes it easier to read, and I enjoyed the way you separated many thoughts into stand-alone pieces.

This manifesto is so insightful that I have shared it to my high school teacher and department chairman professor. When I shared this to my friends who are education enthusiasts (and, it turned out to be, my friends shared it to their friends haha!), they were delighted as well.

Two thoughts really struck me:

1) When you said that we can build a system on passion instead of fear; and

2) That we are entering a revolution of ideas with a generation looking for instructions instead.

As a student, these thoughts really got through me. Your manifesto became a way by which I viewed school and learning in a deeper and more engaging way. Thank you very much for sharing such an insightful manifesto!


rkoffler 2 years ago

Very insightful and inspiring.

Case in point: I approached the business school of a major LA university to teach a course in their entrepreneurship program. They very much liked the concept I proposed, which I have tried and tested on many occasions as a guest lecturer at this biz school and others. I proposed grading the students on their participation and creativity; again, something I have tried and tested. I was turned down unless I came up with an "objective" quantified grading method that students could follow to ensure an A. The dean of curriculum dislikes this, but can't fight the tide of students and their parents who demand a grading formula that ensures an A regardless of learning anything meaningful. Students and their parents rather the students learn some facts and figures than learn how to solve problems and develop enough passion to be participative. Of course, the irony is that this is in the entrepreneurship program, were creativity, passion and problem solving are far more important than remembering facts, figures and formulas.


tom-huntington 2 years ago

Looking forward to reading. How can I get the French translation? Is it available online -- pdf?


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@tom-huntington: Just search this page for the word "French"


babbuinovolante 2 years ago

@rkoffler: THIS! I notice this mindset creeping in everywhere. As has been said before a degree/diploma today is more of a badge of compliance than a token of knowledge


michael7177 2 years ago

It's not a school problem as much as it is a over-consumption and overpopulation problem. You barely mention living simply in in Linchpin. I think you gave the thought one short sentence. I don't remember you mention overpopulation at all.

National Geographic, March 2011, has an interesting group of stories that seem to inform this situation further.

"Taming the Wild" on page 34, talks about the domestication of foxes and dogs but seems allude how humans have both domesticated and nomadic traits. The domestication trait in humans has been likely "selected for" over the centuries possibly because it fosters scenarios for humans to work together on large projects and systems. This is important because I believe we're here to evolve, and evolution is information building on information. Our genetics are information storage and we have now created further information storage systems such as books and computers.

But this same domestication trait leads to overpopulation and over-consumption. The nomadic, wild hunter-gatherer traits seem to lead to more innovation but has been "selected out" over recent centuries. We have plenty of evidence to show how smaller companies consistently provide more innovation than larger over-consuming organizations. We may need to understand how these two behavioral traits can work together in a positive way.

It requires a careful, dynamic balance of management for both traits if we are to successfully evolve with the resources we have. Now for all the fear-mongers out there, I am not suggesting Eugenics. I am suggesting we understand how these traits matter in the larger picture and we manage it somehow.

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Its all laid out, (National Geographic, March 2011, page 72) in the chart graphic of a 3 dimensional cube. One axis measures population, the other measures technology based on patents. The third axis measures affluence based on GDP. Affluence is a euphemism for over-consumption gently directed to the National Geographic readership. Notice how the vertical axis of affluence adds to the shocking exponential growth after 1950.

Any child born after the mid '80's should not exist. That is the time our planet surpassed it's population carrying capacity.

http://motionista.blogspot.com/2011/03/growthbuste...

Peter Singer head of philosophy at Princeton did the fifth grade math in a 1999 NYT essay. By studying world statistics on overpopulation and over-consumption he found, if we're getting and spending more than 30k per year we're basically guilty of murder.

http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/singermag.html

So basically everything is going to crap in a hand basket just as Revelations predicts. The only thing not mentioned is the exponential speed part. Humans don't intuitively grasp the exponential mean. So I believe all we can do is treat each other a lovingly as possible as we watch the whole world go to crap in a hand basket at exponential speed.


luiz-fernando-farah 2 years ago

where is the portuguese (brazilian) version? People needs desperatly needs to read your work here, I was even cosidering to translate it, but since the work is ready, where it is?


sokobora 2 years ago

@seth godin: Would it be possible to get a PDF (printable) copy of the french version as well? Right now it's just a web version and I'd like to be able to email it to my folks who live in Cameroon


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@luiz-fernando-farah: Did you scroll to the bottom of this page or use the search (command f) feature in your browser? There it is!


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@sokobora: You'll have to ask the folks who did the translation, or copy and paste it into your own PDF and I'll happily post a link to it here.


amy-milstein 2 years ago

Hi Seth,

As an unschooling parent, I like the basic premise, but remind you that kids are amazing self-directed, motivated learners until school beats it out of them. Life learning is a workable model, available to anyone - even single parent or two income families. I address your book in my blog post here: http://green-mangoes.com/?p=3996 Self-directed learning, one family at a time, is the future - no amount of school reform will overturn or dramatically change the entrenched industrial system, which makes too much money and provides too many jobs for too many people.


innerSpiritRattles 2 years ago

I love how this conversation is making all schools step up to the plate, but since both my daughters are college age, I've got them on my mind. My older daughter is majoring in special education, was applying for a scholarship the other day which required a short statement about her thoughts on what education will look like in 25 years. Her first response to me was "The school system is falling apart." Her pessimism broke my heart. I said "That's not true." Yes, it's suffered, but thanks to technology, and because colleges like MIT and Stanford offer their courses online, it's forcing colleges to improve their game.Yes, it's true that anyone with drive and determination can get educated, but we still need the networking opportunities and experiences colleges provide.

She's getting an awesome hands-on learning experience through her college's career development course that would never have been something she could have obtained on her own. And the ability teachers have to use apps to adapt the education to a kid, instead of making a kid adapt to the education, is such a blessing. That a child with autism can communicate using an iPad is nothing short of miraculous. I can't imagine the joy a parent must feel to get through that wall.

Both my daughters have complained about how distracted a few of their professors have been in class, but I remind them that those professors are having to relearn skills or learn new ones to be able to use technology to improve the educational system. Some of them may have an elderly parent they are caring for, or a sick child at home. Having had to keep up with the rapidly technology myself, I know from experience my brain is fried, too. I sometimes I wish I had that iPad app to communicate. :)

Since my daughter's internet connection was down in her university supported apartment when she was trying to make the midnight scholarship deadline, we had to go down to the community lounge for her to research "technology + education + future" so she could read about the amazing and rapid improvements that are already here and those on the horizon.I think that conversation should have already been discussed in her classroom, because her research improved her attitude tremendously. The point behind mentioning the trek to the lounge was that, after she read the material, she needed a quiet place to think about her answer, and as we were walking out, we passed by some small enclosed rooms. When we sat down in a dimly lit room, I told her this was a perfect example of adapting an education/setting to a student's needs. How I wish something like that would have been available in my juvenile delinquent days. I hated being in a bright classroom setting and it showed in my grades, and in my attendance.

Having kids who are both creative and can follow the rules, and have thicker skin because their teaches and coaches did not think my kids are nearly as wonderful as I think they are, gave my girls resilience, and thick(er) skin, so they can suck it up for the team when necessary. But it was my job to make them question authority, and have the guts to stand up for themselves as needed. That's always hard even for we old timers.

I thank you for your contribution to bettering education Seth. Thank goodness your mom and dad taught you the same.... and I know you have these good traits down to your own kids.... who will pass it down to there's.

It is shameful that all children do not have access to a good education and good technology, but there's not a doubt in my mind that day will come.


sokobora 2 years ago

@seth godin: Will do! thank you sir!


johnlewisedd 2 years ago

Education Reform is stuck for the same reason Business Innovation is stuck: We refuse to budge from the underlying models that drive these institutions (Blooms Taxonomy and Six Sigma, respectfully). In his classic 1962 book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn realized that scientific knowledge does not rest on the surety of facts which never change, but that Paradigm Shifts occur, where the model you are standing on gets ripped from underneath your feet. What he was really describing was something bigger than Scientific Revolutions he was describing Learning.

After 20 years of research, the minds natural cycle of learning is presented in the book The Explanation Age. Sadly, this book also shows how traditional education only exercises half of this cycle, for the purpose of turning out productive workers in the Industrial Age. The Knowledge Economy demands that our institutions approach learning with a new model. It is time to replace the 1-dimensional model of learning, from novice-to-expert, with a model that produces thought leaders. Our general notion of creativity does not close this gap. Specific Questioning Skills are required for completing our natural cycle of learning. Einstein was not just creative, he was able to formulate a specific question: what would I see if I could ride on a beam of light? And it is time for us to ask what models drive our institutions, and what a Paradigm Shift would actually look like.

We know our institutions are broken at the model level. Its time for a Paradigm Shift. Its time to replace our box-checking models with sense-making models. We have a fine list of books that describe the problem. Lets hear some more about the books that are offering solutions at the model level. I respectfully submit The Explanation Age (http://www.explanationage.com).


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Diana Wenzel 2 years ago from Colorado Level 5 Commenter

Case in point... "Diana, just be standard." The proclamation that killed my essence in the first week on the job in a school system. I never aspired to be standard. It was the day I knew I would leave that position, that work.


Ashuchads 2 years ago

Mr. Godin , you and your work is an inspiration. It inspires many like me and world would be a better place if more of your ideas meet reality. Thank you for doing it .


MamaWantsHerMojoBack 2 years ago

@johnlewisedd: I'm no Einstein (duh), but I know the value of Six Sigma.... it gives us more time so we can think clearly about big ideas that will create more jobs for people who need jobs. Please stop saying the "system is broken", because I know for a fact it is on the mend. I believe it is arrogant of people to assume that being a "cog" isn't living up to their dreams. It makes those people who want nothing more than to do the job they've been told to do feel they are less. I see bullies. And I'm sick and tired of bullies trying to shove their pedigree thoughts down my throat. Even those who I would normally agree with, make me run the other way when I get a whiff they are a thought bully.

Nothing happens overnight, and when all you hear is the bad news, it makes people afraid they can't change things. Please start talking about the good stuff, so my daughter who is majoring in special education doesn't fear her degree will be for nothing. I know for a fact that people can overcome a bad school system. But overcoming that feeling that "I'm so special" will pull people down for life.

Allowing the whiners another excuse to place blame for why they can't find/keep a job/customers/kid from dropping out of school, just produces more whiners who can't find/keep a job/customers/kid from dropping out of school.

I speak from the school of life, not some well financed research study.


momtomyluvs 2 years ago

I freaking loved this book so much, Seth! I e-mailed it to a bunch of my friends and family members who glanced through it or made a note to read it later, so I had an idea to trick them into getting the general idea of the book by creating a speech/performance based around it. I performed it last Friday in front of an audience, with the help of some of my acting class mates. I would love to hear your opinion on it! http://youtu.be/L_Nad6RIjr0


CraigDesmarais 2 years ago

Thanks so much for this I recently started reading your posts again after listening to the audio edition of "Tribes" thanks for being a great source of knowledge!


RealLifeServices 2 years ago

I think the best incentive to get out of working in a rubbish factory job is to actually do it 9-5 for several years, thats when a person pushes themselves into something better


BobCollier 2 years ago

131. How to fix schools in twenty-four hours.

"But, in the meantime, go. Learn and lead and teach. If enough of us do this, school will have no choice but to listen, emulate, and rush to catch up."

Well, I went a long time ago. I had a daughter in school for 13 years, mainly through the 1990s, but my son was removed from the school system in 2002 at the age of seven. If my subsequent experience is anything to go by, trying something else in the meantime won't fix schools. My son and I had such an awesome time learning at the speed of thought through ubiquitous electronic media (you know, all those unprecedented learning opportunities schools have such a problem with?), it turned into getting on with our lives. Ten years of self-education later, I'm not remotely interested in fixing schools. In fact, I'm of the opinion that their day is done. And is your manifesto itself not indeed a powerful condemnation of this antiquated and, some would say, now obsolete educational methodology? Perhaps your next logical step with regard to this particular sacred cow is to pull the trigger and put it out of its misery. Is it even possible for a school to emulate what can be achieved by a motivated individual learner with unrestricted access to the digital communications revolution in all its glory? I think not. These days, schools are not even the best at doing what they do best. If enough of us do this ...? Let me put it this way: Would I send a child of mine to school in 2012? You couldn't give that idea away to me in a lucky bag. Let the dead bury the dead, as Jesus once said I believe.


advocating_creativity_in_ed 2 years ago

Although Bob may be right in that "schools" may have had their day not all parents can home school and not all learners learn through digital media. I had 32 years working as a teacher and in reflection I believe the key change was from a relationship to an assessment based system. Many claim we started with a Victorian model fit for developing factory workers and so I suppose it is no surprise we have ended up with standardisation, quality control and value for money being more important than relationships. Glasser's book on Quality Schools and Choice theory in the classroom as well as Langer's work on mindful learning show what can be achieved if we could remove the political agenda from our educational system. I have for the last 12 months been working with a small company and following my instincts we have developed a maths and English coaching model for children. The results are fantastic, in some cases 3 years progress in 10 months. Parents tell of how involved their children are at home with the work, the degree of ownership they have and desire to do well. The children who turn up each week for 2 hours do so enthusiastically and the Coaches love it too. My own journey after leaving teaching has been exciting and life changing, it is a shame I had to leave education in order for this to happen, what an indictment. Schools are no longer the only player in achieving an education but unless we see education as more than being successful at school I do have worries for the society in which we live. When I started exploring education I had defined 4 purposes, now I am up to 6 which shows how important it is we get this right. Abandoning what we have may be tempting but there is too much at stake not to make a fight of it. My "working theory" on education is at http://www.ace-d.co.uk/id1.html if anyone wants to comment.


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JMaltman 2 years ago

I want to help get this message out as widely as possible, so I recorded Youtube versions of every section and have put together a playlist here:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA37E0EA09DB...

This makes it easy to share individual video sections to spark interest in people who might not read the whole manifesto.

And I'd also love to see people continue the conversation on specific sections in the comments, or with video responses to sections they agree/disagree with or want to expand on. I will be, especially with the areas I think I can improve upon!


vickybabeandbazza88 2 years ago

Thankyou, very informative lens


TheResoluteWriter 2 years ago

Another piece of the puzzle: the role played by the education "industry." You battle the titans when you go up against machinery of standardized testing. The bibliography of this policy brief - on the buried costs of NCLB - provides more fodder for the discussion: http://epsl.asu.edu/epru/documents/EPSL-0506-114-E... (Check out other policy papers found at The National Education Policy Center's website as well.)


authorvickicobb 2 years ago

I was interested in the narrow view of Reading First in that brief. It totally neglects the wonderful nonfiction literature created by me and my colleagues: check out our blog Interesting Nonfiction for Kids; http://inkrethink.blogspot.com. Interestingly, it is our books that are excerpted on all those assessment tests. I have a file two inches thick of permissions contracts I've sold to testing companies over the years. Yet my books are considered too much fun and too unorthodox to actually use in the classroom. How 'bout that!


gzapryanova 2 years ago

Since I turned 20 I have been wondering where and when exactly I lost track of my "talents" and why I can't think of any area which particalrly interests me. Suddenly I got 22 and I was out of college with barely any interest in any area of productive human activity. I went into the first "decent" job possible, then into another. Now this book comes in very handy. Although it will sound like I'm just blaming the system, I think it is to blame when it comes to blurring our minds and our parents' ideas of what a kid should actually do in its adolescence. I devoured every single chapter and agreed with Seth Godin on 98% of them. I will highly recommend this book to my friends and family. I even think it will push me into making a change myself. I have been dreaming of creating a school myself and now I feel it very strongly.


allison-de-la-barrera 2 years ago

wow - it makes you wonder why our government and teachers and doctors cant understand why a huge majority of our society are taking antidepressants and mental illness medications- our brains were not designed by the creator to be compliant and uniform do the same thing over and over again and memorize standardized tests and information---our brains were designed to dream and be individual. You bring this point home with you discuss the study the guy did on high school students on "what do you want to be when you grow up" I knew before I read the results what would lead -- its because we are attracted to dreamers who dont have to conform to what society has and teachers and parents have said you have to do to make it in life. This is why our celebrities are so insanely rich because we the people will do ANYTHING and pay anything to feel connected to the person that gets to live out their dreams. Of course schools are DREAM STEALERS the biggest problem is that we dont even know it. The teachers dont know it, the parents dont know it and the government doesn't know it, they too were indoctrinated when this all was set in motion. Once the cycle starts its hard to stop it and it takes years to realize how did I get in this cycle and why did I stay? I will tell you why its the law you have to send your child to the public school system and we do it year after year without even thinking about it, we plan our lives, our careers, our finances all around this Standardized education without even stoping to say WHY. But what is the alternative Do I homeschool knowing that my child's future rests on my shoulders - if I let them dream too much they wont make it in college against all the uniform test takers. OK im going to dream for a second - when you have a society that works together- they reach out to each other and lend a hand when needed they become self sufficient and feel safe they have better more solid relationships education is local and voluntary - starts at home, you see a mother struggling you offer assistance not because you have to but because you want to because you care for your community you have passion for being a good person and making the best of this life, what that community is doing is relationship building - and our brains thrive on it. You use the same concepts in marketing - instead of "mass media" you build relationships and networks and referrals and build trust - does mass media work of course until the next new idea comes out then the masses jump ship. Relationships last FOREVER. When you look at welfare programs vs. non profits and local outreach programs it is crystal clear which is better and which is more effective at helping people. Just like education when the government made it mandatory and set the schedule and the curriculum and the compliance, it took it out of the parents hands- as parents we no longer even have to think about our kids education it is no longer our responsibility its out of our control - its the law. Same goes for welfare I know the single mom with 5 kids from 3 different dads has food stamps and housing - why do I need to reach out to her and help why do I need to build a relationship with her the government has it all taken care of. Let feed the children come on tv or the plate get passed around church for someone who lost their job or needs a surgery then you give because you care and you give more because it make you feel good inside and you get to know another family. I dont get any emotional feeling when I take a look at my paycheck and see the taxes being with held its just a number on a stub that I have no control over. The government has designed a system without thought or emotion. Why do we pay to have our cars registered? We dont know we just know that we have to do it by law. I read something so true in one of your blogs about big corporations- I have an idea on how to make this better but its not in my department and I dont even know who to speak to......this sums up our system. Why do we not teach in high school 1. How to contact your local State Representative 2. How to write a letter that will make a difference 3. Start a non profit 4. Start a small business 5. communication skills that go past the boardroom 6. What effects your credit score 7. local government branches and how to connect with them 8. Why do we require you read Shakespeare and translate it? and who decided Shakespeare 9. When are we ever going to use algebra? 10. The importance of love and relationship building. For the factory worker trying to feed his family and pay for his direct TV and enough beer to numb the misery -- its too much to find out the answers and to much to ask why he just has to be compliant or the college grad that interview for 2 years to get her position only to find out that she was much happier in her restaurant job eating ramen every night, but by now she has a hefty lease payment, student loans, and credit card debt that she racked up trying to live the american dream - she too just has to be compliant. Unfortunately I dont have a solution just a problem - but I will teach my children and grandchildren to ask WHY and to dream and to love and to build relationships and I will forward your message to as many as I can and I will continue to dream. Thanks for the book!


allison-de-la-barrera 2 years ago

@michael7177: I was thinking the same thing about simple living as I started reading. Have you ever considered that we are overpopulated and over consume based solely on the current system and not the planets capacity? I for one believe that there is plenty of land and plenty of resources to support this population however we have not been given all the tools to do it. As you stated before the system was designed way before we knew what was to come. It kinda feels like one of those big corporations that put all there efforts in one direction saw some results at first and poured everything in only to find out that was not the route to take in the long run, but with all their money gone and bruised egos its to late to implement better ideas. Too bad there isn't a bailout for us.


philibert-perusse 2 years ago

I live in Quebec (you know that french part of Canada up North of US). Since 2000 there was a huge education curriculum reform in our schools. In 2005, the reform made its way to high school as well. I am a parent of a young girl and she isn't in school yet, so I am not a specialist.

Yet, the reform was quite publicised was quite controversial, its name: "Pedagogical Renewal - What defines the change" (http://www.fcsq.qc.ca/dossiers/Reforme/index.html)... It introduced quite new concepts, one of which is favoring the development of Transversal Skills over learning and memorizing stuff.

The thing is the controversy was centered mainly around technical issues, such as the report cards. What also didn't help was that it wasn't explained to parents, parents don't know how to deal with this new way of learning and can't relate to their own learning experience. Teachers were also not quite prepared for it, they had to learn a new curriculum along with a new way of teaching "on the job" and the results were quite uneven.

I would be quite interested to compare the content of that reform with what your manifesto "Stop Stealing Dreams" is advocating.


agileschools 2 years ago

I think Scrum and Agile can transform any school from Dream Stealers to Dream Catchers...And prevents kids from drinking hand sanitizer

http://theagileschool.blogspot.com/2012/04/scrumag...

John Miller

agileschools@gmail.com


jmschlmrs 2 years ago

Thought provoking Seth. I downloaded it and read it straight through. Thank you for making it freely available.


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ismeedee 2 years ago

My kind of stuff here. I did a lens on how to help kids become more creative. I didn't reference anything to do with dumbing down, etc, but it is based on those ideas. I just hate sticking kids in front of computers, tvs, games consoles and plastic meaningless toys!! I'll be getting some of your stuff on my kindle!


mary-malmros 2 years ago

Thanks for putting this out there -- I've only skimmed it yet, but am looking forward to reading in detail. I've had my own ideas on the subject, so I went looking for a couple of specific things, and didn't find them. So here's some food for thought:

1. Why are people always focused on K-12, even those who consider themselves to be offering up radical reforms? Effective education, education that serves the individual, the community and society in all the ways you discuss, is education for PEOPLE -- not "children", not "kids". If you break out of that box, I have a feeling that it creates an important change in thinking about education that leads to some pretty exciting solutions.

2. Where's the connection with the community? So many people in the modern-day United States, particularly middle- and upper-class people, live a lifestyle from childhood that has the effect of disconnecting them from their community. People get up in the morning, get in the car or on a schoolbus, and go off to work or school somewhere that's disconnected from the place they live. Children's socialization is managed by play-dates, not by going out to play with the neighbor kids. Perhaps more importantly for the endless "how do we build the workforce of tomorrow blah de blah de blah" ranting that this discussion always devolves into, how do you raise children into adults who can take their place in the workplace, if you've just spent their whole lives insulating them from the world of work?

Education, work, life, all have to happen together. Partition them and they all go wrong.


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DoraArtDesign 2 years ago

Thank you! Downloaded this last night, but reading some of your other ebooks and getting great info in plain English!


oclthree 2 years ago

While there are some pockets of excellent education, I find there is so much room for improvement. If colleges and universities were focused on instilling lifelong learning, then the continuing education departments would not be as necessary. It's a matter of one industry (degree grantors) supporting another (real world professional development). Oh yeah--It's all about the money!


wijola 2 years ago

@oclthree: I think the premise that learning can BE instilled is almost antithetical to the frame of mind required of a "lifelong learner." If it can be merely instilled, who needs student agency?


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@wijola: This is silly. It's a very straightforward process to teach just about any organism to be curious, to seek out new situations and to explore. Agency is what happens in the face of risk, and it too can be taught.


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Gypzeerose 2 years ago Level 3 Commenter

@mary-malmros: Effective education, education that serves the individual, the community and society in all the ways you discuss, is education for PEOPLE -- not "children", - so true - it is lifelong learning or not at all I fear. Children's socialization is managed by play-dates, not by going out to play with the neighbor kids - I think the demise of traditional children's freedom and traditional games is a tragedy.


Ladylinchpin 2 years ago

When I taught in the early 80's. I would begin by telling my class that a tree does not have to look like a lollipop. Any child who climbed one, sat in one, and listened to the wind move the leaves and branches, knew a tree wasn't a ball with a stem on it. I encouraged my classes to be creative. use their own imaginations, and simply, create. I was the art teacher. The "funky, unaccepted, 'eat your lunch in your own room'" kind. I also realized through my 20 years of teaching elementary students, middle school and high school that my role became even more and more important as students needed to make their own decisions and not be "told" what to think or do. My positions were often cut, due to funding. Art was the only subject that dealt completely with right-brained activity, and where students could glean a whole-brained approach to learning, yet the math and English teachers "scoffed" and "ho-hummed" at my free/liberal classroom style. I understood that not every child was a math-wiz, or an English scholar, yet he or she could have successes in my class which bolstered self-esteem and lifted spirits. I understood that the squirrel who was good at perpendicular tree climbing, would never be good at swimming. That the bird who could fly, would never burrow into the ground like the graceful mole. That the fish who could swim with it's sleek body and ability to breathe underwater, would never climb a tree.

I got it way back when. Seth, you get it now. Bravo to you, and thank you for your insight and clarity which you afford to this screwed up, left-brained world! This teacher loves you!


tracy-antonioli 2 years ago

First, I'm still mid-reading this, so this won't be my last comment.

Second, I'm a teacher getting ready to go back to work after a year off. I am not excited about it. Not even a little.

Third--thank you for this and for making it free and available to all. I think I'll be quoting parts of it for the next...forever.

Now for my first question: I'm stuck on section 29. Because, you see, I would so much rather work by igniting passion than inciting fear. That's always how I've tried to teach. But how do you do that when you have a bs curriculum you have to teach? How do I ignite passion in something I'm not even passionate about? I'm an English teacher, and I hate 75% of the 'literature' I'm supposed to teach. What is the answer there?


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WhiteKnight7770 2 years ago

Yes things are changing in this Info age. Schools today has start teaching outside the box.


neneix 2 years ago

Thanks for the information, Seth. Our future generations are too important to put a ceiling over them.


purelight1 2 years ago

@Ladylinchpin: thankyou for your share - this gave me gooze bump-les (?spelling no idea).. and tears of joy springing forth. :-))

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it reminded me of a critical event in my life.

I had a teacher in a public school system that became aware I was struggling (2nd bottom in grade) and took me aside, and started teaching me in a different way after school e.g. thru models (which are boardgames). I then got to move to top class of the grade. This was in year 8 we call it (14). She was actually the physical education teacher but she taught me maths. Then ultimately she became my chemistry teacher when I got to year 11 and 12 (final grades). If it was not for this teacher... I would of been lost to the system Rather I came out learning I am capable of anything my heart desires.

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I believe you would have no idea of the impact you have had.

my goose-bumples tells me it is signficant. that is my gift. very strong sensing energetically.

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thankyou for this gift of your share.


purelight1 2 years ago

@seth godin: seth: do you believe we teach curiousity? That is most intriguing to me if you do.

I had always felt curiousity is actually our natural state. It is our life-force flowing thru uninterrupted. yes it gets squashed and trodded and thus forgotten or lost confidence. This view has been derived from my qualitative research of adult in corporate settings.

When I coached adults in corporate, one of the most common content I coached is curiousity. it is not tough to "re-ignite", as our flame in my view is never extinguished. How you do it, depends on the individual's current ability to "hold their centre" e.g. not pop-their-toaster be reactive (in your lingo, lizard brain be activated).

So for me, is guiding individual to re-connect or strengthen loose connection (e.g. like the cord of your toaster has come loose out of his socket in the wall. when the plug is in firmly, you are connected within, strongly grounded, hold your centre, curiousity bounces out.)

arrh... hope this makes sense and not comes across as waffle. ok to say if does.


GrahamBrownMartin 2 years ago

Seth thank you for posting this work and maintaining it.

Those interested in the ongoing debate about the future of learning and transformation of education may be interested in the work of my organisation, Learning Without Frontiers (LWF).

LWF is a global platform designed to facilitate and encourage the debate on education reform and change attracting participants including Noam Chomsky, Sir Ken Robinson, Jimmy Wales, Lord David Puttnam, Dame Ellen MacArthur, Ray Kurzweil & many others.

LWF attracts an engaged and open-minded audience who are forwarded thinking, curious and receptive to new ideas and perspectives about education, teaching and learning. They are an international audience of thought leaders, policy makers, innovators, entrepreneurs and leading practitioners from across the education, digital media and technology sectors. They are education leaders, intellectuals, social and political theorists, artists, designers, futurists, architects, publishers, broadcasters, technologists, learners and teachers. They come to ask the big questions, discuss the big challenges and seek to answer them by innovation, enterprise and an enduring optimism.

You can find us online at LearningWithoutFrontiers.com


paperwritingexperts 2 years ago

This is a very engaging and informative post. I liked few of your ebooks too and downloaded them recently. I agree with bloomingrose that learning is a lifelong process and with a little creativity we can change the traditional structure of our education system to widened the purposes it is serving.


pinky_eagle 2 years ago

I thank you so much from Mexico as a teacher I appreciate your generosity and yes it is happening every were


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koolclipz 2 years ago

@seth godin: I am teaching this to my daughter as we speak through actions. Dare to Dream! Kool Clipz


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JBradshaw 2 years ago

Great resource. Thank you for the free copy!


JohnWren 2 years ago

We've posted a link to this, would appreciate your comments to help us get a discussion going there with our members Facebook (dot) com/Small.Business.Chamber


JohnWren 2 years ago

Standardize testing in killing our schools.l


scherry-samuels 2 years ago

As a parent who first learned the term 'gifted underachiever' when my oldest son hit middle school - this just blew me away. How incredibly sad it is to hold these kids back by restricting their curriculum, judging them with standardized tests and dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator. I am just blown away by the whole concept. Thank you.


MeandmyArrow 2 years ago

So happy to see the liberation begin! Kids and other creative types breathe a sigh of relief, and grow.

Some other good resources I have not seen here yet--

Creating Innovators,The Making of Young People Who will Change the World by Tony Wagner;

also Catching Up or Leading the Way by Yong Zhao.


MeandmyArrow 2 years ago

So glad to see the 40 Colleges book here. I work in a high school and know that students and parents flock to the news-rankings for colleges. Ugh. This book is a great tutorial for any college visit and assessment; not just the 40 on the list. Pope has another book on "finding the right college for you".

Another great college search book, loaded with essays on education as well as reviews of a list of different notables: Cool Colleges, For the Hyper Intelligent, Late Blooming and Just Plain Different by Donald Asher.


MeandmyArrow 2 years ago

@oclthree: Focus of colleges...yes--In my research, college admissions drive a lot of this education policy for public schools. AP testing and classes are out of control, becoming commonplace at the high school level...talk about memorization: you take a test at the end and they need to teach to it. Colleges still say they want to see AP classes on a transcript, when even many, many students now take AP in high school: It is just an admissions hoop to jump through.

Unfortunately, memorization for tests discourages deep and critical thinking and creativity.


norske-rhino 2 years ago

I recently read a "children's" book to my son and daughters by an author who apparently believes in NOT dumbing down children (or their parents). He used words that even I had to look up to explain it my kids, even though the context was usually adequate. The author is E. Anderson and he's got three or four books up on Amazon. The one I read was "Santa Saves Boswell" and yeah, I know ... Christmas is a few months away, but my kids really like his stories. Anyway, just wanted to offer that up as one more example of somebody doing something to raise kids UP!


anonanon 2 years ago

"School was invented to create a constant stream of compliant factory workers to the growing businesses of the 1900s."

I'm sorry, but I believe you're wrong. School was invented to ensure an educated electorate. If we hadn't stopped teaching civics in school, perhaps I would not need to point that out, and your ebook would be less necessary.


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markcollard 2 years ago

Seth, you're the man. I've read STD and have spread your ideas far and wide on my blogs. Love the TEDx talk you gave. Every educator shoudl be invited to listem to you, and to read your manifesto. THANK YOU for your work. Mark Collard


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AstroGremlin 2 years ago

Education is big business, from textbooks to legions of unionized employees to political bosses who protect the status quo. It's going to take more than a conversation about what school is for to change public schools. Just as talking about nuclear power taking fewer lives than coal is not going to unseat powerful vested interests in the energy business. Education is a business that will change when consumers have an alternative. What's the twisty light bulb for education? Any ideas?


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seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

@anonanon: Alas, the historical record doesn't back you up.


EdwinMcRae 2 years ago

@AstroGremlin: AstroGremlin, you've provided the 'twisty light bulb' in your statement already. "Education...will change when consumers have an alternative." No-one buys CDs any more. Why? Because the alternative rocked up a few years ago in the form of the mp3. The same needs to happen with school. We simply need to create the alternatives and let the consumers make their minds up from there. There's a big challenge here though. School isn't just about education. School is a state-funded baby-sitting service for working parents!


peciriacks 2 years ago

Seth, I assume you know Alfie Kohn. If not, you should definitely check him out. Thanks for taking me out of my comfort zone and making me think more deeply about life. Having been a beneficiary of the traditional school system and having kids that followed (and exceeded) my (and my wife's) footsteps, this is a hard message to swallow. Following Alfie for the last 15 years and Dr. W. Edwards Deming before him, has "softened me up" quite a bit.

The challenge of obsoleting an entire infrastructure (buildings, classrooms, teachers, administration, materials, etc.) is mind numbing. Not to mention the greater challenge of obsoleting our thinking about education. Martin Luther King Jr. said, The old guard in any society resents new methods, for old guards wear the decorations and medals won by waging battle in the accepted manner.

I look forward to your continued thoughts on this topic and hope to influence the education of my grandchildren in some small way as a result. Thank you.


alfonsgrabher 2 years ago

I admire your speeches and you're one of my icons. However, I (painfully) learned that most people understand that they need education to make more money. Most people attend university in order to get "better" jobs and higher income. Posting this on facebook I got replies like: "how could I ever think otherwise?".

My question: is changing how people view education one of your goals? If so, - don't you think you're fighting against windmills?

It seems like your work could be understood as "how to outsmart the other factory workers" ... ?


alfonsgrabher 2 years ago

@RealLifeServices: I've lived in China&Cambodia and I saw people who work 12-16h/d 6d/week in rubbish factory until drop dead. In Austria/Europe I've seen people work 8am to 6pm in "rubbish factories" until 65yo and then retire. I believe only a minority of people does even look for something better. beer&tv seem to be the agenda of the masses. is society divided into people who care, and others who comply, by genetics maybe?


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kiratalley 2 years ago

Dreams are important, if you don't have any you don't have a path of where to from the present here to the future there. It's too bad that many people have fallen into a rat race and continue to spin their wheel of daily life without any concrete dreams and direction in life. Great insight!


wvbrennan 2 years ago

@EdwinMcRae: Great comments Edwin. Wondering when the social, political and economic factors will allow for the expansion of more alternatives. We are starting to see some changes, but rather slow in my neck of the woods. Any ideas on creating that alternative?


MeandmyArrow 2 years ago

@peciriacks: Some kids (achievers) do well (get good grades) in almost any system of education...new or traditional; they are smart and/or compliant, or competitive enough to succeed in traditional education environments. Or any.

Some students need to be interested, engaged in what they are learning in order to succeed, driven by a real interest, need or spark of creativity. And for these the inquiry based learning is a godsend. The students, like your kids, who are going to achieve and succeed, do so anyway.

Innovation though--how can you learn that by honing your memorization skills? Good grades are not longer enough-- the kids at the top need to learn to think.

Good point about infrastructure redo: read Shift Ed by David Houle. He proposes that schools become community centers....for all, not just students.


joerg-weisner 2 years ago

Seth, thank you for the great manifesto.

I would like to share it. But there is one problem, most of my friends live in Germany and some are not so fluently in English.

Do you allow me, to translate it to German?

I would love to do it,

best wishes,

Joerg


Jardim 2 years ago

@seth godin: Hi anonanon and Seth,

Actually, you are both right. Patrick Shannon's book _The Struggle to Continue_, discusses the influences of both the industrialist agenda and the progressive agendas (including the "founding father" view that education is to create a literate public to ensure democracy) as competing philosophies that have shaped U.S. education over the past 200 years. Though progressive agendas have been marginalized, they have still had significant impact (e.g., project-based learning, which began in the late 1800s; Writing Process and Whole Language in the 70s, 80s and 90s) and champions (e.g., Dewey).

Patrick Shannon, a professor of education at Penn State, is often mentioned as recommended reading alongside John Taylor Gatto and Alfie Kohn by those interested in studying the competing historical influences in education.


anonymous 2 years ago

@MeandmyArrow: I just wanted to respond to your quote: "Innovation -- how can you learn that by honing your memorization skills?" Every person learns differently. Ironically, I am one of those persons who cannot think "outside-the-box"; troubleshoot; problem-solve, etc. unless I have a foundation on which to build. I often build my foundation through memorization, which in some ways goes hand in hand with research. For example, I usually cannot build a quality Squidoo lens without first understanding the scope of a subject, which translates to researching my subject and then memorizing the facts until I feel I fully understand my subject, so much so that I am then able to conceptualize. I don't believe this technique is employed by the majority, but it's what works for me. Just thought I'd share this.


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coolaunt 2 years ago

I need to finish reading the manifesto. I feel we need to revive CURIOSITY. It drives people. It motivates people. It advances us. It creates better ideas. School kills curiosity as it functions today. Learning is important but how kids learn and what they learn seriously needs to be revisited.


MeandmyArrow 2 years ago

@anonymous: Thanks for that perspective! I get that idea about building a foundation with facts; it makes sense. There are a variety of learners out there.

I wonder how people go about getting that foundation for themselves: Is it driven by a need to know? It sounds like it may be, in your case and I know it is in many others. That need to know is often not addressed in traditional educationstudents are fed facts before they are hungry for them.

Memorization without meaning is a working-memory brain function, and a skill that some people are good at, but a lot of that info is not retained long term; only info you put into use is retained after the test.

Building a big picture built on vital facts-- sounds like more what you are talking about? Dan Pink calls synthesis of facts and idea SymphonyI think it is akin to, or necessary for, innovation.

Thanks againand let me know what you think.


keri-dennisfulmore 2 years ago

Wow, I have always thought that school was a dinosaur of an education system. I have watched how school changed my confident happy daughter into a very self conscious person. I believe in child led learning! Thanks for this thread.


mitchAus 2 years ago

I have a few criticisms of the book that hopefully i'll cover over the next little while. Firstly i really do not like the misrepresenting of the past in regards to the foundation of public education that you and ken robinson sprout. Public education has done more for the working class than staying on the farm ever did. The establishment of free universal education in the western world was a hard fought fight that was not endorsed by the industrialists (what did they need literate and numerate workers for!?!).

That's not to say that people didn't see obedience as a valuable skill for young people to have but to say that it was its primary purpose tarnishes the work and legacy of those that have made the greatest possibility for egalitarianism and meritocracy possible.


sherrlyn-borkgren-visualmedia 2 years ago

I was kicked out of school in 7th grade and I never went back. I used to sneak into a college sit in the back of the room and listen. I was afraid to participate because if the teacher asked my name I wouldn't be on the roll. When I was 35 I went to college legally and got my Master's in Visual Communications.

A very disturbing issue was that all the grants were age bound. Many grants for women were for women 18-30 even workshops that offered scholarships. Today I work mostly internationally as a photographer. Everything that happened was perfect. Reading your books I feel like someone has caught up with my experiences! Love it. www.borkgrenphoto.net


mitchAus 2 years ago

My Criticisms in total. Happy to hear comments.


jaredlatigo 2 years ago

Absolutely love this! I started reading but didn't get far before I had to stop and think on it. Plan on finishing it up soon!


anonymous 2 years ago

Great lens....i am a teacher trying to reach out and share information....I would appreciate the like

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xanthe-matychak 2 years ago

My current project is "developing and teaching disruptive K-12" so this manifesto fills me with joy and courage. In fact, every time I go through a career change I come to Seth's work. It's like self-help for heretics.


Yazzblogs 2 years ago

@anonymous: GypsyWhim, You can't think outside the box because may be, you're educated that way. The current educated systems in so many countries, especially, in third world countries create just BELIEVERS who accept each and everything their teacher teach them. They never argue because it's against the set NORMS in the educated institutions. I like the post.


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jimconrad2 2 years ago

Learning to fail should be a subject: Failure 101, Failology. Failure Theory, Failurture, Failamatics, etc.


persist2end 2 years ago

Manly P Hall has an excellent take on the origins of Public Education system from 15the century onwards. Its an excellent summary and closely parrallels to what you are saying here. - Perhaps, better elucideated there :)

I dont have the relevant link on the web, but you can sure search it out.

Cheers,

P


bouvfan 23 months ago

Facing the part of persisting in the face of disapproving authorities! Thanks for reminding me that the cookie cutter takes off what evolves us.


shauna-reisewitz 23 months ago

It's encouraging that this message is getting out to more and more people. School (as it exists) does not equal education. In fact it is its antithesis, really. As I work in coffee shops developing an on line alternative learning and coaching program for teens (www.pacificsandsacademy.com), I hear people all around me talking about their negative school experiences. Soon, we will realize that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes!


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supergras 22 months ago

I love this book. I have one Seth Godin book in every bathroom. :p


MeandmyArrow 22 months ago

@persist2end: I looked into the origin of the WORD education myself: the very word describes a passive conduit --receiving information. Formal education did seem to go back to the 15c. LEARNING may have nothing to do with Education as we think of it. Learning happens anywhere, anytime.

You can see how teachers would not be expected to inspire learning when the model is about doling out information or even skill attainment. There's a lot wrapped up in that.


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Paravox 22 months ago

The schooling system needs to change for the better if we want a bright future for the human race.


enrich-self-study 22 months ago

This is one of the best manifesto's, on anything, I've ever read.


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brettcairns lm 22 months ago

Stifling dreams and creativity as equally as bad as an educational system that does not advance children on their own merits


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mattwebber 22 months ago

I bought my first Seth Godin book about 8 years ago. It was "The purple cow" it was great. Thank you for writing such an amazing content.


andrew-gonzalez 21 months ago

Linchpin is the book, which, if read by all of those who are creating the core curriculums of our private and public education system, will disrupt the current accepted normality that we should learn from adolescence to obey orders. It will make you wish that your early educators focused on cultivating your creativity instead of asking you to repeat what was vocally expressed to you a week prior by choosing the right answer between A., B., C., D., or E.


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DAEdmonston 21 months ago

I'm excited about this book. We home schooled both our children through high school and they have thrived. Both are creative and imaginative and hardworking. Yes, I'm proud. But it is true. I do think an overhaul is need greatly. Thanks for starting the discussion in a new arena.


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wyattfairlead 21 months ago

I am greatly looking forward to seeing what you have to say about the school system in stop stealing dreams. It is clear that schools are broken, but if I know anything about your work, I expect some very novel and insightful thoughts. Thank you for making it available.


topbuilderlist 20 months ago

School is our learning foundation at early. We supposed to learn here the basic right attitudes that we need to apply in our daily lives. This is the crucial stage for us to start developing our self confidence in any situation that we encounter.


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anonymous 19 months ago

The dedication in that book is wonderful! I can't wait to read it and improve education! :)


anonymous 19 months ago

Yes, school definitely kills creativity. I have been trying to resusitate my creativity back for twenty years !


richarddixon66 19 months ago

Have emailed a link to Michael Gove, Secretary of State for Education in the UK in the vain hope that the inspirational thinking contained here wakes him up from his current thinking.


mina009 18 months ago

Very interesting talk. I think school misses sharing an important "detail" and that is being happy in life. If one asks children whether they like school, a unanimous answer would be NO! From a very young age children learn to do something that they don't like. How are these children going to turn to creative human beings then, when they learn from a very young age that their happiness is not important, that their personal needs and thoughts are not important and as you said that maybe compliance is important? Says who?? But the big boss, of course (and throughout their lives there are going to be lots of big bosses!) Thanks for sharing this lens..


True2Myself 17 months ago

So glad I found this! As a mother with 2 children in the school system I am so glad to find this. It absolutely reassured me that I am not the only one that feels this was. My 10 yr old daughter is an absolute dreamer - in fact these are the majority of the comments we get on her report cards "often day dreaming instead of paying attention to the lesson" I have a hard time reprimanding her like the school suggests. My husband and I jokingly say there are 2 people in this world those who will make it out of the wood and those who won't. My little dreamer definitely would. She's creative and sometime truly blows my mind when coming up with solutions to problems that as so far outside the box!! For example, at 4 she lost a detachable cord for the radio in her room - instead of crying and insisting we buy her a new radio because this one was now "broken" she searched the house and discovered one of the t.v.'s had the same exact detachable cord - unhooked it and used it for her radio. At 4!!! I know adults that wouldn't have done this!! She is a problem solver, incredible builder, imaginative an a great artist - in fact this is what she wants to be when she grows up. Her teachers don't like that she hates to read and is not very good at math - does it make me a terrible parent that I'm not all that concerened - I think she'll find a job as an artist if she chooses to and that's ok with me :) I'm a manager of a printing co. & a designer - I get paid every day to be creative, pick colors that look good together and help owners of huge corporations market themselves because they just don't know how. I went to a 1/2 semester of college before an owner of a company told me that I wasn't going to learn anything there that he couldn't teach me - and pay me to learn instead of paying a school to "teach" me - boy was he right and he definitely saved me a ton of money I didn't have. He hired me on the spot and taught me so much! 15 yrs later I'm making a darn good living being creative :)


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SusanAston 17 months ago

I believe that most teachers are professional and teach their "subjects" well. However, the vast majority of teachers have no experience of the real world beyond their academic cloisters. The majority never become involved in any wealth creation activities and have an employee mindset.

Schools need to engage with the outside world more and show pupils good role models and give them an appreciation of what is possible beyond the 9 - 5.


paynui 16 months ago

Both my daughters a dedicated teachers so I understand the hard work they do.


analeya 16 months ago

Hi everybody,

I must to tell you something based on my obervations. The children from today don't want to LEARN. They interact easy with the machinnes but they don't want to learn in the meaning to stock informations. The problem becomes more deep. if we have children does not store information society of adults will act on other concepts not their logic at all. The children must be ascked to solve problems with out a computer just like an exercise because in certain situation they will not know how to act. More action with out the machinnes to improve the mind and brain develop. Remember a world can make an economy but an economy can't make a world


JakeMarkley 16 months ago

I HIGHLY recommend this channel and the manifesto. This is one of my favorite works of Seth's and I have it printed out and have multiple sections highlighted. I would recommend reading Linchpin and The Dip. These are my favorite Seth Godin works, but the manifesto and his TED Talk are also great (plus they're free).


RealPaycheckstubs 15 months ago

He is such a great author. I was waiting for more information to consume from old Seth!


Guy1982 14 months ago

Ken Robinson is an awesome Human being! I love him


saulosegurado 12 months ago

Great post!


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YogaAngel 12 months ago

I have always felt that our education system was built to create compliant drones for the work force. I didn't know until now that it was a fact! :-/


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ikeephouse 11 months ago

I really enjoy the TED talk. Loading my kindle now with your manifesto. Thanks!


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aminebombom 10 months ago from Doha, Qatar Level 2 Commenter

We have to make our dreams true, specially the ones we share with others wether a wife or friend or family, and dont give up


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julesh2013 9 months ago

Very good. I want my daughter to follow her own path and know she can do anything, including not have to work for someone else!


JArora 8 months ago

Very inspiring message and I appreciate the tone of acknowledging those educators who are trying to embrace change while often stuck in slow-moving bureaucracies. Many folks are doing amazing work to help our kids and are forced to work within a system that is not designed to adapt to change and innovation.


CordeliaFlakk 8 months ago

Aaaaand that's why I spent 14 years homeschooling my three daughters. They've gone on to excel in what they do, because they had meaning and learning in their lives.


MeredithFR 8 months ago

I'm trying to keep interactive, team-building outside the classroom activities part of the "traditions" at my children's grade school, but it seems like an impossible task. The principal explained to me during a "Principal Chat" last year that "new traditions - like giving Kindergartners iPads" were being put in place while older traditions -- like a walking tour of historic Boston sites -- were being taken away. He is entirely missing the point of the need to encourage creativity, teamwork and interpersonal skills, versus put more tech in the hands of children. I wish there was a way to effectively harness "the Seth Godin movement" to bring awareness and pressure to school administrations. I've sent links to Stop Stealing Dreams to the administrators, but don't believe they've listened or read them. If anyone has any ideas, please tweet me at @merflyrip Thx.


houldsworth1 7 months ago

Fantastic. I've been saying much of this years.

I left school when I was 16. I went back to get my degree because many companies won't look at you without one. After 20 year of industry experience school was almost too easy.

I love to teach. I teach my kids, my co-workers and even myself.

The Raspberry Pi comment was spot on. I had my 11 year old daughter use one of those to control a robot that I built with my son 4 years earlier. The fun I had watching her problem solve that was incredible.

If we can stop teaching to the test then we can build a future where people ask the hard questions. People that ask hard questions are not good for politicians or people with money and power so this is going to be an up hill battle, but it's a battle worth fighting.


mitali-chowdhury-16 7 months ago

Interesting post.


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Hutch871 6 months ago from Aberdeen

A lot of what is taught at schools now has very little use in the real world, unless you follow a very specific career path. Schools should be more about learning life skills and things that you will need when you are an adult


Niktravelfit 5 months ago

Thanks for sharing!


jgutteri 5 months ago

Hi Everyone, it's great to have a page to communicate with like-minded people.

I'm currently working with another founder on an all-new school that will foster dreams, not steal them.

I'd love to hear your thoughts about it, so please send an email to james@jamesgutteridge.com.au and I'll be in touch.

James


andyvasily 5 months ago

As Daniel Pink says, the gap between what science knows and what schools and businesses do is still huge. I've been involved in coaching, teaching, counseling, and education in general for the past 20 years. It is still those teachers on the fringes, pushed to the side as you say Seth, that are creating the biggest noise and truly making a difference. They are doing remarkable things.

Despite many administrators and decision makers knowing what truly drives learning and motivates students, little change is being made. The indispensable linchpin educators making a difference in the lives of so many young people are often the ones that are considered to troublesome because they constantly question the status quo. Schools, admin, and policy makers should be embracing these linchpins in their schools, but sadly this is not what is happening in most cases. To remain employed and keep their jobs these indispensable teachers must just smile and wave like the Madagascar penguins. Show up, teach the facts, manage kids, and give them tests.

Will this prevent me from seeking mastery in my teaching or dissuade me from being the best that I can be, no way. It makes it more difficult, but I'll relentlessly keep pushing the cause.


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The world is changing and we need to adapt to it. fostering dreams/talents Its a battle worth fighting.

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    JenaleeMortensen 15 months ago

    There are definite failures with school as it is now. School doesn't help every child get a great education. Most people have some things that they do very well and some things they don't do well. Standardized testing indicates everyone should do well at the same things.


    AlexBPearl 18 months ago

    I think there's too much emphasis on getting exam results and perfecting exam techniques. Ken is right to point out that creativity is almost a dirty word in schools. Creativity and imagination should be encouraged and not treated like a poor relation and brushed under the carpet. Alex Pearl - author of 'Sleeping with the Blackbirs'


    smartwaybooks 19 months ago

    I think we should reexamine what life is for...and how we can prepare young people to be successful in life. That includes teaching life skills such as personal finance, how to buy and prepare healthy meals, and how to interact with people in a way that benefits both parties. Some of those are more art than science.


    carol2 21 months ago

    We homeschool to give our kids the freedom the learn at their speed (so far they have graduated at 18 and 17 years of age), to give them one-on-one teaching, and many other reasons. They all loved being homeschooled, and have had absolutely no problem fitting in at college and in the world.


    wyattfairlead 21 months ago

    I am not sure about artists, but we definitely need to reexamine the school system. What we need is schools to actually start turning out innovators. We need people to start thinking again. People no longer think and that is to societies detriment.


    bjj james 22 months ago

    Creativity vs. Obedience, I choose and open minded approach.


    jan-kinahan 22 months ago

    The status quo no longer is sufficient!


    jan-kinahan 22 months ago

    Today and tomorrow, in a nutshell! (In education, the past is largely inapplicable! Read on!)


    coolaunt 2 years ago

    Not only it's purpose but the outcome it truly delivers. Are we truly offering the skills that children will need to be functional and productive in the world on it's current course?


    alphastim2 2 years ago

    Yes but I am not claiming we need to make more artists. Lol.

    The manifesto consists of a lot of whining about schools. There is next to ZERO about what Seth thinks schools should actually look like. Kids have to be someplace during the day as parents are working. And if you have 25+ kids in a classroom there is only so much freedom and exploration that can be permitted. Homeschooling is the best way to achieve what Seth is suggesting and yet he dismissed it! Hilarious contradiction! If you are going to whine on for hundreds of pages please talk with someone who knows something about schools and have them put into words some actual suggestions on what your ideal school would look like and how it would run.


    VitalRogue 2 years ago

    No, we just need to take the devil (bureaucrats) out of the detail ...

    let teachers teach, students love to learn, and ...

    Reinforce habits of "critical" thinking - both analytic and synthetic.

    Stop trying to force a singular point-of-view

    (compartmentalization and analysis of a "theme") and

    instead develop the capacity to approach the same things from a number of points of view

    - successfully - at once (design and integration).

    Your "techies" and your "artists" will emerge naturally out of any group committed to "getting at it" - and you'll also find that last years techies are this year's artists, next year's artists this year's techies, and it will be a source of never ending fascination to watch who and which "types" are leading the "way."

    Teach "classical" liberal arts ALSO - not instead of, but rounding out both professional and technical learning. Understand the relationships between past/present/future (myth) and good/true/beautiful (life).

    Re-instill the dignity of the student through the learning and mastery of ALL varieties of subject matter -

    only teachers can do that,

    and only one-on-one,

    and only with flexibility and latitude to adjust to the learning "style" of the individual student,

    and allowing the student to adjust/adapt his/her "unique" learning capacities to the subject matter at hand.

    So, clearly, I'm incapable of "taking a side" of this one. The assumptions embedded in the query are "essentially" flawed, possessing no vital tension.


    markcollard 2 years ago

    Yes, Yes, Yes. Being a good teacher is an art. So why then do we put up with an education 'system' (first clue there's a problem) that requires obedience. The two don't mix.


    david-bernstein-395 2 years ago

    of course. Our current system/curriculum is set up to serve a monoculuture that no longer exists. Critics of a new educational approach often suggest that replacing the monoculture means unfettered choice and chaos. But there alternative to the monoculture is far more choice and customization and an expanded understanding of human capabilities, not anything goes.


    KarlHarer 2 years ago

    The current education system is definitely messed up.


    purelight1 2 years ago

    yes, its the foundational place to show us

    1: how to lead ourselves first (self management) and then how to lead others

    2: what it is to learn, play explore. what does it indicate when it is not there...

    3: communication and what it really is

    e.g. listening v hearing

    e.g. 97% non-verbal and body language is minimal component

    and what is impact when we don't voice.. stuff in in our big toe...

    (link to physicality)

    and how to speak true to our committment of whatever (e.g. kindness or ?) when lizard is up.... how to not loose your ears... when lizard is up...

    4: understand being human from the myriad of perspectives.. and learn it thru experiential learning

    e.g. use of our heart field (heartmath institutue)

    e.g. use of cognitive (head) and types of thinking

    e.g. our mind is not a "infinite space", it gets full, like a bucket, if we do the "record play spin on say anxiety", and how to empty and that is all part of being human until we learn to stop filling it! (e.g NO anxiety)

    and the impact when these 2 centres are aligned or not aligned.

    NB: How that actually feels in the body (the sensory feeling), so we learn from young age to get to know Mr Lizard, Curious Cat, Deductive Dudette (all the characters from rapido). Jill Ted's talk is spell binding and an example of how such foundational understanding can be easily taught

    5: possibility, why it is so important as part of being human. how to check if it exists in someones reality or not. what happens when no possibility exists for an individual, and what happens when it does.

    and then experientially related to how it impacts the individuals "language" used automatically. how to see when lizard is up or curious cat is up.... in yourself.. in others...

    6: curiousity... what this is.. what is means as an indicator ... how to find it when its lost etc.... and link to communication (how to ask questions, to preserve a space of curiousity and openess, or close it down)


    anonymous 2 years ago

    For me School means wasting all my time, money, creativity and effort just to work for someone else. Hardly anyone goes to college to be their own boss.

    To make more money in a job you have to either, work more hours or get paid more. Sooner or later your going to hit a brick wall; there's only so many hours a day you can work and only so high you can get paid.

    Being independent, creative, business savy and taking legitimate risk is what needs to be taught in school.


    CarlynMitri 2 years ago

    Yes absolutely... unfortunately modern day society thrives on automatons so I don't think the people in power have any interest in changing our education system.


    mouse1996 lm 2 years ago

    I really feel that if I would have been in a different atmosphere in school and been learning a different way I would have enjoyed it more and learned more. Not all students learn the same way and our world is different now and things have changed so why not the way school is taught?


    gzapryanova 2 years ago

    Yes, definitely. The topic of helping kids dream, develop talents and skills necessary for real life has been with me for the past 4 years. I have no kids yet but I plan to have in the near future and I dread that they will attend the traditional schools. Although I had one or two inspirational teachers in elementary/high school, the experience as a whole could have been way better and more productive. Seth's manifesto Stop Stealing Dreams really reinforced my passion to start my own school somewhere in Bulgaria which I've been pondering for more than a year now.


    SavvyG 2 years ago

    yes my kids all have learned on the internet and by travel and love it at the same time they have all learned to actually run my multinational, multi-million dollar company working their tales off to make thing happen. Staying up many nights to make things happen, handle crisis and the things that happen in business. They have loved this the most, working as a team. The experience of actually knowing how to work with standard of excellence and making something then getting a letter that it changed someone' life has been indescribable. Besides running my company and starting their own with money they earned, they have done outstanding school work. They have won awards in writing , art, math, and have been published writers. They have also started 2 charities and a company of their own, from scratch. Creating something, taking a dream into a reality with a tight budget of their money not some venture money has been amazing. Seeing something become real has been irreplaceable in what it teaches. Travel and seeing other cultures has been amazing. Regular school. It seem a socially awkward place while trying to meet teacher's idiosyncratic demands and decipher what they want while everyone worries about college. There are many ways to learn and this has been fantastic, what they have learned no one would believe it is that good.

    And no it was no vacation we worked super hard to be able to travel and run the company. No easy thing. But worth it.

    School? It will be replaced by learning via the internet so all kids can be educated and the best teachers are giving the lecture. Fantastic.

    We need to compete and teach science and math, we are a joke in the schools on that , my kids learned much more at home. They also are all artists and writers and we have been to many a museum. It all matters and school does not seem to be the best place to learn.


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      No, we need more rigor and obedience and better test scores

      dpgibble 2 years ago

      We can't skip the preliminaries. Once I start reading reviews and opinions from toddlers and 6-year-olds on this site, I will accept the possibility that I'm wrong. The Information Age requires impossibly high levels of technical education to expand. Almost no culture has solved the moral conundrum created by the demand for "more." Japan came close and now they face extinction. External systems of discipline make warfare more lethal and classrooms more predictable. But the best special ops soldiers, industrialists, scholars and artists have first mastered themselves. Hence the real purpose of schools.


      BarbaraFrank 2 years ago

      We certainly need tor reexamine school. But we also need to allow parents to choose how their children should be educated. Not all parents will choose to homeschool their children to adulthood like I did, but they should have the option by being able to direct the property tax dollars they pay to the public schools toward any educational option they wish.


      BFunivcom 2 years ago from Wherever Human Rights Reign

      As long as we start school at ten years old, end it at twelve, and this curriculum is a free choice for those considering going into engineering, science, or foreign military service.

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        Deborah Kenny and the Harlem Village Academy

        Born to Rise: A Story of Children and Teachers Reaching Their Highest Potential
        Born to Rise: A Story of Children and Teachers Reaching Their Highest Potential

        Deborah's autobiography, out in June. A personal story of how she came to make such an impact.

         
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        My teaching experience

        I got my first gig as a teacher up in Canada at the age of 16, teaching style canoeing to hundreds of kids every summer. In college, I was the youngest computer science TA the department had ever had, and did it for three years as I developed and taught a lecture series to classes as big as a hundred.

        I was an adjunct professor at Mercy College, developed and taught a course on desktop publishing for the Learning Annex (which they 'shared' without asking me and used nationwide). I've taught science lectures on a volunteer basis in public elementary schools and was a popular professor the year I taught at the NYU Stern School of Business.

        I founded the SAMBA alternate MBA program which I hosted in my office daily for six months, and have run a series of events and seminars and free programs around the world over the least twenty years.

        I have no idea what it's like to teach full-time in an underserved education-industrial-complex high school in which the teachers are in a pitched battle with a testing-oriented system that wants nothing but to force them to act like automatons. My guess is that it's unspeakably horrible, which is why I wrote this manifesto.

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        Just click the picture to see the article. It's pretty easy... you email it to a special address.

        You'll also note that the ebook has been published in mobi format. All you have to do is download it to your hard drive, plug your Kindle in via the USB cable and drag the file from your hard drive to the Documents folder on your Kindle.

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        You can also browse the file via the web. Click the picture for details on sideloading.

        You'll also note that the ebook has been published in epub format. All you have to do is download it to your hard drive, plug your Nook in via the USB cable and drag the file from your hard drive to the right folder on your Nook.

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        Most of us have had at least one, some have been lucky to have had many. If there's a teacher who made a difference to you or your kids, give them a shoutout here.

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        seth godin 2 years ago Hub Author

        Thank you Todd Quinto, for racing with me every morning up the steps to get to your math class on time, for caring so much about multi-dimensional equations that I cared too, and for bringing your emotion to a college classroom that could have easily been nothing but sterile.


        annemcx 2 years ago

        @seth godin: Hope it's not too cheesy to say thank you Seth. You taught me - and still do - so much, not least by re-affirming the value of being inspired.


        bhancock2112 2 years ago

        Thank you, Mr. Gattis Lusis for teaching us to follow our curiosity as far as it would take us. For teaching us chess, to dissect pigs hearts, and look for the best way to approach a problem, not just the "right" way. And I'm sorry if I misspelled your name - third grade was a long time ago.

        Thank you, Dr. Homa Ghaussi for not letting us settle for just getting the right answer, but for insisting that we learn the process of solving calculus problems.

        Thank you, Mr. Brian Town for building a top-notch video production program from scratch and showing us how to take our ideas from a dream to a reality.


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        JK Sterling 2 years ago from Franklin, Tennessee

        Thank you Mr. Rhode for teaching me to solve problems outside of a book and for encouraging us to think for ourselves. "The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles but to irrigate deserts." - C.S. Lewis


        schmitzfrance 2 years ago

        Linda ESPING, a school in Southern California, 1972

        Dear Miss ESPING, Thanks for reading my story out loud to the class while making everyone close their eyes and put their heads on their desks only to announce the author after you finished. You have been INSPIRATIONAL to me for over 40 years. I wasn't mature enough to tell you at the time it happened (but I am now).

        I hope you are well. Robert SCHMITZ


        DanHolm 2 years ago

        Dr. Chris Muller. The best teacher, advisor, counselor and mentor anyone could ask for. He saw the spark in me, fanned the flame and gently showed me the road I needed to run down. Now, he's inspiring students and teachers as the Dean of the School of Hospitality and Boston University.


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        Laniann 2 years ago

        Thank you Joseph Bernard for showing me how to think outside of the box.


        anonymous 2 years ago

        Mr. Vaughn at Marquez Elementary had an imaginary student. That says it. I was lucky enough to get to nominate him years later for a teachers honor which he received.


        kimmanleyort 2 years ago

        @annemcx: I agree. Seth has been a teacher/mentor for me for the last three years.


        MatthewFarnand 2 years ago

        St. Pius X HS, Ottawa ON To: Mr. Morden, for teaching that essential to all things is good form writing and communication - and trusting students to debate and stretch their minds. Mr. Durnin, for teaching that creativity and whimsy can lead to intellectual breakthroughs that logic alone can not reach, and Mr. Kinahan who taught (through character) that character trumps all.


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        jodijoyous 2 years ago from New York

        Here are four teachers who matter, and are making a difference (if you'll forgive the link):

        http://upmarket.squidoo.com/2012/02/03/what-grownu...

        Back in grade school, it was my fourth grade teacher, Mrs. Murad, who encouraged me to jump ahead and read books that were way beyond "grade level." And another shoutout to Mrs. Cort - who successfully made biology fascinating to a non-scientist.


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        BFunivcom 2 years ago from Wherever Human Rights Reign

        I've had two teachers that really stood out. An economics teacher who made finance fun, and an English teacher that gave me a B when she said I earned an A -- but she only gave two As a class. The first put me on a road to enjoying the reading of non-fiction, the other taught me top grades and the approval of authorities aren't important.

        Life is art -- live it!


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        markcollard 2 years ago

        Thank you Mr Walker, my fourth grade teacher at Coatesville Primary School, VIC. I think i slept thru my first 4 years of schooling. I don't recall a thing. But I know Mr Walker awakened something in me, that I will be forever gratfeul for.


        marianpontz 2 years ago

        I insist all of my student teachers read two books before they enter my classroom-Linchpin and A Whole New Mind. I also give all of my students a book mark with your Linchpin commandments.


        eSCKWID 2 years ago

        All of my high school English teachers were amazing, but this was in 1967-1971, California schools were still at the top, and I was in the college prep track. Besides my art classes, they were the only reasons I could stand coming to school. Linda Keech (freshman English, 1967-68) will always be my favorite teacher.


        eSCKWID 2 years ago

        Thinking about it some more, I honestly think my own father was the best teacher I ever had. It was like being home schooled by a rocket scientist (on top of going to a regular school everyday).


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        Hairdresser007 2 years ago from Burbank, CA Level 2 Commenter

        I have been very lucky to have great teachers and mentors in my life. My first was my first grade teacher, Mrs. Chase she just made school fun and I can still remember how excited I was to get to Aqua level in reading. In HS I had several who taught me to stretch and go beyond what I imagined. And in Cosmetology school my instructor Cheryl Rossiter Eidam was instrumental in my entire career so far. She shared her learnings with me so that I could learn and grow.


        ZBT 2 years ago

        Dear Monte Clute, God rest his soul. I lost touch with him after high school. I was devastated when I was told that he died back in the 80's.

        I don't know what I would have done without him. He was the only one who REALLY cared about my future, when my parents argued about who would get the house and money during their divorce. They were far too preoccupied with intentionally wounding each other to bother to think about me. So seriously, thank God for Mr. Clute! I don't know what I would've done without him. He was just wonderful to me. He helped me out and cared, and it was real.


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        jenniferteacher1 2 years ago

        Mrs. Keramian, my high school sociology and World History teacher, was an amazing person who talked to us like we were people with real thoughts and ideas in our heads. Captain Hook earned her nickname, but she taught me how to organize my thoughts and put them on paper. Finally, Frau W taught me German AND that I could pick a country and go live there, and I haven't lived in the US since 1998.


        CraigDesmarais 2 years ago

        My mentor Pastor Marco was my greatest teacher. He helped bring about the leadership qualities that I now possess.


        Anna2of5 2 years ago

        Mr. Douglas A. Avery. He took the time to test my vocal range in such a way that I wasn't nervous-this is important because you sing differently when nervous. Showed me the proper way to breathe. Turns out at the time, I had a four octave range. I can't read music other than as a roadmap. I would memorize each song fully and be totally off the page so i could watch his conducting, and simply do what I was instructed to do. My First NYSSMA solo was "I Know My Redeemer Liveth" -I got an A+. I lived for music back then. It really added much joy to my life. I don't think he'll ever know how important his work was to my quality of life. My parents had just finished a 2yr battle in the courts while my brother and I were in a Foster home. Seneca Falls was the closest thing to a hometown I Ever had. I got there in the middle of 8th grade.All my music teachers were life savers but he had such a passion for it, it was infectious.


        bellagio 2 years ago

        Very Interesting Information! Thank You For This lens!

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        mouse1996 lm 2 years ago

        To many to name. It was their kindness and not really what they taught that made them wonderful.


        CarlynMitri 2 years ago

        Mr. Grogg! You'll never see this but I will give you a shoutout anyways :)


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        lesliesinclair 2 years ago Level 2 Commenter

        Sorry, I didn't have one teacher that I can recall exciting me about learning or anything else.


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        Mr-Panda LM 2 years ago

        DWW is awesome. Teaches what he loves, and is oh so funny while doing it.


        kent-ong 2 years ago

        I am not sure if this is correct. I read Robert Kiyosaki's book.Rockefeller built and support school system because he needed workers to work for him rather than build a wealth empire.


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        Jay32 23 months ago

        Absolutely loved this video. We need a faster growing awareness of the fact that education sucks. Thankfully, education is already being transformed thanks to initiatives such as the Khan Academy and others.


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        takkhisa 22 months ago Level 4 Commenter

        Yes! I had one such teacher in my life :)


        Margot_C 22 months ago

        The most helpful assignment I ever got in school involved a list of questions and a day in the library to answer them. It taught me a lot about how to research and find information. This lens was an interesting read and certainly makes a lot of very valid points. I am a big fan of the book, "The Willpower Instinct".


        smartwaybooks 19 months ago

        Mr. Gregory. An elementary teacher who coached my high school track team. At practices, he ran with us and did every fitness drill he asked us to do with us. I was amazed. It changed the way I viewed coaching. Years later, when I coached track, I did the same thing. Never asked the kids to do any fitness drill that I wouldn't or couldn't do with them! Teachers who teach and lead by guiding their students like that are few and far between, but they "get" education at its deepest level.


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        mariacarbonara 19 months ago

        One teacher really can make all the difference... but sometimes its a parent too. Parents must not forget to inspire their kinds to achieve and think big

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